Posted on 01/23/2021 10:03:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
January 20th is past, and Joe Biden, not Donald Trump, is the President of the United States. To all those who prophesied that Trump would serve a second consecutive term and assured us that he would be inaugurated on the 20th, I appeal to you in the strongest possible terms: admit your error, take full responsibility, and do not, under any circumstances, continue to put a false hope into the hearts of God’s people.
What you prophesied did not come to pass.
There is not an alternative, spiritual reality in which Trump is still functioning as president.
Nothing is going to change in a month or a year.
It’s over.
Even if there was massive electoral fraud, the results of this election will not be overturned.
Donald Trump will not serve a second, consecutive term.
Face the facts, be accountable before God and man, take the hits that will be coming, and humble yourself before the Lord and His people.
This is not the time for excuses. This is not the time to concoct spiritual myths. And this is absolutely not the time to blame others.
If you prophesied falsely, you and you alone are to blame.
Maybe you did not intend to mislead.
Maybe you were acting in sincerity and integrity, truly believing the Lord had spoken and doing your best to stand firm in faith no matter what. After all, you thought to yourself, isn’t that what faith does?
Maybe you were so grieved over where the radical left was going that you prophesied what you desired, namely, the reelection of Trump.
Maybe you sensed God’s intent, namely that if Trump would repent of his pride and the church would repent of looking to him in an idolatrous way, God would give him four more years.
Maybe you got caught up in the power of the group, finding affirmation in others saying the same things.
Maybe you prophesied what your people wanted to hear, subconsciously tickling their itching ears.
Maybe you got caught up in a partisan political spirit.
Maybe you looked to Trump as a political messiah and God answered you out of the idolatry of your own heart.
Or maybe you fell prey to demonic deception.
Whatever the cause, you prophesied falsely, and now you need to own it. The last thing you should do is feel sorry for yourself and claim that you are being persecuted. Quite the contrary. The reality is that you have misled many.
As a result of your false prophecies, many believers are experiencing a crisis of faith right now. Who will be there to pick up the pieces?
After all, they wonder, how could all the prophets be wrong? (To the extent that you urged your hearers to hold on to the very end, to that extent you are responsible for bringing them to this point of crisis.)
Worse still, some of you issued prophetic threats to those who questioned your words, telling them they had to “believe the prophets” or else. And you did this while claiming to speak directly for God.
The Lord does not take it lightly when His people are abused like this. He will hold you responsible for misrepresenting Him.
So many of God’s people are hurting, and the world is mocking us, thinking that our faith in Jesus is just as false as these failed Trump prophecies.
One young man posted online that he had been telling his family, none of whom were believers, that Trump would be reelected, based on the words of the prophets. He thought it would glorify the Lord when Trump was miraculously inaugurated. Now, he said, he doesn’t think he can ever talk to them about the Lord again.
Do we realize the damage that has been done?
One woman who falsely claims to be a prophet said that God has been making a list, noting who is listening to the prophets and who is not. Those who are not, she warns – claiming to speak for the Lord – will lose their voice and their ministries.
This is deep deception and serious spiritual manipulation.
If God is making a list it is a list of those who misled His sheep. A list of those who threatened His children if they failed to “believe the prophets.” A list of those who brought dishonor to the name of His Son.
Now is the time to repent, openly, publicly, and forthrightly.
Now is the time to find accountability from other leaders in the Body who did not fall into this same error.
Now is the time for some serious soul-searching.
It’s what the Bible calls bringing forth fruits worthy of repentance. This is no small thing.
If you continue to prophesy falsehoods and assure your followers that Biden will soon be replaced by Trump (and I don’t mean in 2024), I warn you that you are moving into complete spiritual fantasy and leading others with you. Careful!
The reality is that I’m writing all this as a charismatic leader rather than as a charismatic basher, as a proponent of prophetic ministry rather than as an opponent. I’m writing as a friend, not an enemy.
In fact, it is a holy jealousy that drives me – jealousy for the honor of Jesus’ name, jealousy for the health of His flock, and jealousy for the purity of prophetic ministry.
I also write out of a holy jealousy for your own ministry and calling.
All of us can make mistakes, even serious ones like this. Our God is a God of forgiveness, and redemption is the central message of our faith. You can come out of this closer to Jesus, deeper in the Word, godlier in character, and more in tune with the Spirit. And to the depth of your humility, to that degree the Lord will restore and rebuild.
But please, I appeal to you again.
Don’t blame others. Don’t make excuses. And don’t perpetuate any further spiritual fantasy. It’s over.
Now, what are you going to do?
No there absolutely was not. But feel free to point where it was in the exact word spoken:
"Thus says the Lord: Set your house in order, for you shall die, you shall not recover."
So he allows that there was massive fraud, but somehow I have to take sole responsibility for the fact he isn’t President?
Logic escapes most people nowadays.
There are certainly instances where we're told the Lord changed his mind. Usually for the good of those who plead for mercy.
Now, is someone going to suggest that: (1) The Lord determined the Trump would be inaugurated on Jan 20, 2021, (2) told his prophets to spread the word, then (3) changed his mind?
“that if Trump would repent of his pride..” Hmmm.. What happened to the scripture about looking for the splinter in a brother’s eye when one has a log in his own.
I think about what all we do to our neighbors around the world with all we send to them, via the airways and the internet, from Hollywood, our sports, music and other entertainment, along with our politicians and the strings that come attached to the ‘help’ we offer them.
And then I wonder who is the real Whore of Babylon spoken of in Revelation.
How bad do you have to be to qualify? I think we can beat ‘em.
Thank you for saving me the trouble of saying exactly that.
Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying: / “Go, and say to Hezekiah, ‘Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years.’” …Clearly a different prophecy from the former, which was rescinded.
Yeah, I didn’t read all of the posts in this thread, but for those that I did read all I could think was “Did these folks read the same article I did?”
The problem with the prophecies I read was that they predicted he would win in a landslide in 2020 (which I do really believe he actually did in an honestly counted election) AND would serve that second term, which he isn’t.
When they say *and* then it doesn’t leave it open to claiming the prophecies were fulfilled simply because he won the actual votes.
You’re obfuscating the point being made, i.e. that you just can’t spout Det. 18 as some hard and fast rule, when you have no clue if God Himself set a undeclared (by the prophet) condition that would make the word not come to pass.
In Jeremiah 18, God explicitly says He may tell a prophet to declare something, and then He may change his mind on what was declared.
There are several places where God changes His mind; He offers humanity a choice several times. One poignant event was where He told Moses that He would destroy all of the Israelites for the sin of the golden calf and instead make Moses the new patriarch of “a great nation” (Exodus 32:10). Moses prayed to God directly to spare Israel in verses 11, 12 and 13, with verse 14 making it plain that God accepted Moses’ entreaties.
I don’t recall hearing/reading any specific prophecies that Trump would be inaugurated on January 20, 2021; I’m sure some are out there notwithstanding, and those are obviously false.
Well, if the prediction was that Trump would serve that term according to the schedule determined by humans (particularly modern legislation apart from the Constitution), that certainly is false. I’m still in wait-and-see mode as to how long the usurper administration will stand.
True, but Isaiah 38:1-5 does not contradict Deuteronomy 18:22.
And there are several false prophets listed in Jeremiah, receiving rather gruesome punishments for their presumptuousness.
That one doesn't fit because it was not a prophet telling the Israelites that.
No one can seriously contest that Jonah was a true prophet, giving a true prophetic word to the City of Nineveh when he prophesied: "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.". No conditionality in that word, NONE, ZERO. Nineveh WAS NOT OVERTHROWN IN 40 DAYS, the prophecy DID NOT come to pass. Should Jonah be stoned to death? Was he a false prophet?
Don't mistake understand my point here. It IS NOT that many of these election words were not false, just that I'm not so quick to flail away with the stones, knowing God can change his mind and there may be unspoken conditions we just don't know of.
God Himself is not a prophet?
And in a sense, it is a prophet relating this to us, given that Moses is the titular author of Exodus.
But that doesn’t contradict what you’re pointing out; it actually agrees.
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken
No contradiction, in the case when God’s word is recorded as “I was going to, but now I will not and will do this instead”, demonstrating His free will. This has to do with things that God never said in the first place.
We are talking about judging human prophets. If you want to include God and debate whether he can give false words then all I can say is "Good luck with that...
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