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Mask mandates and travel bans: What we can expect to see from the Biden Administration regarding travel
the Points Guy ^ | January 20, 2021 | Clint Henderson

Posted on 01/21/2021 9:30:11 AM PST by Capt. Tom

What can we expect Biden to do about the cruise industry? Cruising is estimated to be a $150 billion global business, according to Travel Pulse, and the U.S. is its biggest market. But currently, all cruises are suspended under a “no sail order” until March 1 and no ships are allowed into U.S. waters. This date falls barely six weeks after Joe Biden’s inauguration. So the question is: Will he extend it?

If not, all cruise lines must pass the Centers for Disease Control’s “conditional sail order” that includes testing crew members, simulated test sailings and several mountains of paperwork.

However, Biden is said to be more conservative than Trump when it comes to reopening the cruise industry as he is led more by science — so the CDC may have more influence and it is known to err on the side of caution.

“I’ll simply follow the science,” Biden said in September. “I’ll level with the American people. I’ll take responsibility, and I’ll support rather than tear down the experts responsible for the day-to-day execution of the plan.”

It will also be down to Biden and his administration to decide if all cruise passengers will need to be vaccinated before embarkation. But, there is also a question around the legality of such a mandate. Analysts recently told Business Insider that “a new administration would likely be less sympathetic toward cruise lines reopening without a vaccine and more keen to follow doctor, scientist, and expert recommendation.”

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“There’s some hope in the cruise world that the Biden administration will ease restrictions on travel to Cuba in a way that would allow cruise lines to resume trips there for Americans. If so, that would be a huge development for cruising. snip

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Travel
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This article seemed long so I excerpted it since it covers many other means of travel.

As expected the CDC was mentioned as a big player .

IMHO I expect the Green New Deal People to get involved ,and the Global warming groups , the anti fossil fuel people, and the petri dish press types to all have the ear of Biden. -Tom

1 posted on 01/21/2021 9:30:11 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

Cruises banned for safety reasons except to Cuba?


2 posted on 01/21/2021 9:32:49 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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Vaccination cert? Will states set up check points on highways to stop folks at the state line? Like the ag stations going in to caulifourniuh.


3 posted on 01/21/2021 9:33:50 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Screwed, blued and tatooed. Enlisted USN 1967.)
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To: Capt. Tom

I hear the TSA is hiring.


4 posted on 01/21/2021 9:37:58 AM PST by Delta 21 (Get off your ass and earn it!)
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CDC will require cruise lines to conduct “simulated test sailings.” What the hell is that and what does that have to do with COVID? Are they going to model the spread on a ship? There is no way on God’s Green Earth to do that. Every single model of spread and contagion has been wrong.

I’m not a pro at “simulated test sailings,” but this appears to be nothing but a bunch of Biden zero-meaning bureaucratic gobbledygook meant to make it look like they are doing something.


5 posted on 01/21/2021 9:40:47 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democracy Dies With Democrats)
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To: rktman; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker; ...
Vaccination cert? Will states set up check points on highways to stop folks at the state line? Like the ag stations going in to caulifourniuh.

Things are now so unpredictable, any bizarre idea will IMHO be entertained by Biden coming from the malcontents , socialists, American haters ,and communists, who now have Biden's ear to get their opinions put into practice.
Elections do have consequences. -Tom

6 posted on 01/21/2021 9:43:35 AM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Just do virtual cruises. Like some of the newer peleton bikes and treadmills. 😒😂


7 posted on 01/21/2021 9:46:30 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Screwed, blued and tatooed. Enlisted USN 1967.)
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Capt. Tom wrote: “Things are now so unpredictable, any bizarre idea will IMHO be entertained by Biden coming from the malcontents , socialists, American haters ,and communists, who now have Biden’s ear to get their opinions put into practice.”

Yes, as long as it gives the illusion that they are ‘doing something’. Doing ‘something’ useful and effective is secondary to the illusion.


8 posted on 01/21/2021 9:48:27 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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To: rktman

rktman wrote: “Vaccination cert? Will states set up check points on highways to stop folks at the state line? Like the ag stations going in to caulifourniuh.”

You will have to put on a mask before boarding an aircraft but you can take it off as soon as you get to the destination. Accomplishes nothing except creating an illusion of ‘doing something’.


9 posted on 01/21/2021 9:49:58 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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All travel will require vax certs, it’s just that simple. Every European nation and their airlines already have the ground work in place. Expect South America and Asia to follow suit. Want to cruise you have to be one of the immunes, same for international flights bank on it. Having spent 11+ years in the service we didn’t get to go to some parts of the world without jabs. Latin America, Africa and South East Asia all required jabs.


10 posted on 01/21/2021 9:52:48 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: DugwayDuke

Oh, sorta like gun “control”.


11 posted on 01/21/2021 9:58:38 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Screwed, blued and tatooed. Enlisted USN 1967.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Capt. Tom
"CDC will require cruise lines to conduct “simulated test sailings.” What the hell is that...?"

Simulated passengers will be strapped into cruise simulators and to see if they catch a simulated COVID. And I'm OK with that as long as I'm in the simulated Lido Bar on the upper mezzanine with a good supply of simulated cocktails.


12 posted on 01/21/2021 9:58:39 AM PST by moovova
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Appreciate the excerpt.

How on earth did we get to the place where unelected policy wonks control our every move? It’s maddening!


13 posted on 01/21/2021 10:02:32 AM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Those models have been around since ships have sailed. It was a crapshoot getting underway on a military ship. At least 10-20% of the crew would have the screaming sh!ts withing 72 hours of sailing. Modern bearthing makes it better but not by much.


14 posted on 01/21/2021 10:09:07 AM PST by Delta 21 (Get off your ass and earn it!)
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To: subterfuge

We got here because docile”law abiding” good guys only whine behind a keyboard and will never EVER, go use force to change the outcome. The excuse is always this is not the time, wait to see what happens. QANON has “the plan”, “trust the plan” and on and on. There was no plan it was gaslighting. Our founders gave us the 2A for this situation and no one will use it so its worthless. There will be much belly aching and endless vanity posts but no one will do anything that much has been proven. The left has burned cities and shot fired they have proven they mean business and they are winning the civil war because of it.


15 posted on 01/21/2021 10:13:33 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas
All travel will require vax certs, it’s just that simple. Every European nation and their airlines already have the ground work in place. Expect South America and Asia to follow suit. Want to cruise you have to be one of the immunes, same for international flights bank on it.

It has already started. SAGA cruise line has initiated it recently, and it will spread to other cruise lines.

SAGA Specializing in over 50 year old passengers you will be previously vaccinated and tested onboard. -Tom

16 posted on 01/21/2021 10:20:54 AM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Ships are allowed into US waters...

theyre going back and forth from The Bahamas etc and into Miami for supplies etc


17 posted on 01/21/2021 10:28:31 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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What Biden is following is pseudo-science.


18 posted on 01/21/2021 10:35:59 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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I think Carnival is getting ready to moved the cruising start date again...this time to May or June...

Norwegian and RC already have May...

The final payment date for my April 24th cruise on the New Mardi Gras was officially Jan 24 but Carnival extended it out to Feb 22...Today it was extended further to Mar 10...

It seems when they get easy about rules a new cancellation period accrues soon after...


19 posted on 01/21/2021 10:40:26 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The military jabed me with all kinds of stuff I have a packet from Atlanta retention command with everything in it last I counted it was near 200 injections. I’m very much alive and well I don’t have irrational fear of vaccines. Science is science of the process is followed the outcome is proven safe for most. Every vaccine EVER made has had adverse reactions for a small percentage that just how it works.The choice must be made with risk reward calculus. Currently 10.5 million Americans have gotten the jab and 56 have died and those 56 could have died anyways either way that’s 56/10.5 million vs a CFR of 1 to 3% for 40+ with at least one precondition. Do the math it’s Judah is not to take the cure with those numbers. I am looking forward to having walking immunity and the cheap tickets while using my immunity passport.


20 posted on 01/21/2021 10:43:25 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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