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Crenshaw provides a perfect example of the absolute ignorance of the constitution our representatives have.

Posted on 01/08/2021 6:42:34 AM PST by BuckeyeGOP

I heard an interview with Crenshaw on Tucker that was re-broadcast on my local radio station. Crenshaw claimed that what happened at the capitol was mostly the result of the right wing media lying to us about the January 6th electoral certification and giving us false hope.

He stated there was never a chance that the election could have changed because it would not have been constitutional. According to Crenshaw, January 6th is nothing more than a ceremonial show and those of us who thought there was anything more to it then that were wildly misinformed.

So apparently, Crenshaw believes that 80 million Trumpsters are ignorant and brainwashed by rightwing media which led to the protests and the incident at the capitol.

This crap makes my head explode. Hey Crenshaw, the constitution is essentially your occupational manual that you swore to uphold. Try reading the damn thing...there's even a pocket version for god sakes.


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To: BuckeyeGOP

Yet another “Former Navy SEAL” who’s full of “it”!


21 posted on 01/08/2021 7:02:41 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

His claim makes no sense. Why would the framers have put in the specific provisions for congressional certification if it was going to be just a “ceremonial show”.

I am having a hard time understanding and accepting the fact that we were so thoroughly betrayed by so many of our conservative “allies”.


22 posted on 01/08/2021 7:04:16 AM PST by pelican001
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To: cdcdawg

Could not say it better. You nailed just who crenshaw is.


23 posted on 01/08/2021 7:04:28 AM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: Celerity

Truth!


24 posted on 01/08/2021 7:06:13 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: All

Crenshsaw is an awful politician and I hope they don’t try to run this puppet for president because republicans will stay home instead of voting for McCain 2. And he does look like a Hitman in a porn movie


25 posted on 01/08/2021 7:06:48 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange )
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To: BuckeyeGOP

“the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Anywhere, anytime.


26 posted on 01/08/2021 7:10:30 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Celerity

It really would be 4D chess, if Trump was a tool of China and the Left the whole time.

If I put on heavy-duty tinfoil, I could see how the Trump Presidency could really be about getting China into the agressive posture it really wanted to be in, anyway. MAGA could be just about retaining some vestigial value in the U.S. dollar for those who hold too many of them. The Wall could just be a make-work project that is reversed simply by the opening of a gate.

It’s a lot of tinfoil, but things are certainly much more to the liking of Leftist revolutionaries, now.


27 posted on 01/08/2021 7:10:52 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: RBW in PA

Exactly. The Constitution itself has now been hidden by search engines.

You have to fake out even Duck Duck Go to get to the actual tezt.

Like the Wednesday Rally pictures of the crowd size. Down the memory hole.


28 posted on 01/08/2021 7:12:24 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

“He stated there was never a chance that the election could have changed because it would not have been constitutional.”


Don’t know Crenshaw, but I have to agree that we were never going to be happy with the outcome on the 6th. It was, to use an old military phrase ‘a forlorn hope’. There was no way that the democrat-held House would vote to take Biden’s Electors away from him. Even the Senate’s doing the same was highly unlikely no matter what evidence would have been presented.

The fact is, Republican-held state legislatures in PA, AZ, GA, MI all voted approval of their state’s Biden Electors. Constitutionally, it is the states that conduct elections, not the Federal government. That several of the states violated their own laws in conducting the election, didn’t bother Republican legislators and in GA & AZ Republican governors enough for them to object in a meaningful way.

Even the video from GA of election workers sending Republican observers home, sitting at their desks, looking to see if anyone was watching, then pulling out containers of ballots hidden in a table was not enough. “Completely normal behavior, nothing to see here” we were told.

We were, in fact, told there was hope, I never believed there was hope. Told my wife not to expect any good news on the 6th. As it turned out the news was worse than expected and now as Trump supporters we are both now, domestic terrorists in the eyes of the incoming administration.


29 posted on 01/08/2021 7:18:08 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: BuckeyeGOP

I’m no lawyer but where in the Constitution / 12th Amendment does it says Pence could refuse the electors provided by the states? He can’t accept the alternative electors even if offered because they were not certified by the state(s).

There was massive fraud no doubt. Hopefully those investigations continue and be proven in the courts and then you have an illegitimate administration based on fact.

Emotion proves nothing and that’s what the left feeds on.. emotion. They can’t handle facts.

If an objection was made under 3 U.S.C. § 15, the whole House votes on it and the whole Senate votes on it. Only if both chambers vote to sustain the objection does the outcome potentially change.

Even if the objections were allowed and would have been herd the outcome would not have changed.

Communist hold the house Majority and now the Senate Majority with Willie Brown’s whore as the deciding vote so what would have changed?

3 U.S.C. § 15 also states: But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted.

If conservatives had taken the House & Senate, different issue all together but that didn’t happen.

In order to take the House and Senate there needs to be an all in effort to change the states.

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Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;—The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;—the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

§15. Counting electoral votes in Congress

Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o’clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes, which certificates and papers shall be opened, presented, and acted upon in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates; and the votes having been ascertained and counted according to the rules in this subchapter provided, the result of the same shall be delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall thereupon announce the state of the vote, which announcement shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President of the United States, and, together with a list of the votes, be entered on the Journals of the two Houses. Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision; and no electoral vote or votes from any State which shall have been regularly given by electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified to according to section 6 of this title from which but one return has been received shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified. If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section 5 of this title to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made, or by such successors or substitutes, in case of a vacancy in the board of electors so ascertained, as have been appointed to fill such vacancy in the mode provided by the laws of the State; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted. When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted. No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.


30 posted on 01/08/2021 7:19:25 AM PST by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: BuckeyeGOP

I would really prefer to admire this man but...
He keeps giving me reasons for contempt


31 posted on 01/08/2021 7:21:47 AM PST by silverleaf (“Democracy" is where the 51% tell the other 49% to go screw themselves.)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

And now we’re cancelling Crenshaw.

FReepers are all-in on cancel culture. Easily triggered to cancel their own.

Pathetic.


32 posted on 01/08/2021 7:27:54 AM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government....

Amendment 14

....No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


33 posted on 01/08/2021 7:28:59 AM PST by nagant
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To: BuckeyeGOP

The guy lost an eye in service to this country. Apparently he lost his brain as well.


34 posted on 01/08/2021 7:29:40 AM PST by McGavin999 (biden is not my president )
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To: BuckeyeGOP

We can’t enforce the Constitution because they’re rioting in Washington.


35 posted on 01/08/2021 7:33:57 AM PST by nagant
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To: dmam2011

Wow how y list to,support.

Another who should become a democrats.


36 posted on 01/08/2021 7:38:19 AM PST by Pearfect
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To: Pearfect

Should read.

Wow, another on my list NOT to support.

He should be come a democrat..


37 posted on 01/08/2021 7:39:40 AM PST by Pearfect
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Yeah, but don’t you know he was a seal? Don’t you know he lost his eye? If that doesn’t qualify you to interpret the Constitution which is clearly written in plain English, I don’t know what does! He’s a simpleton, and a Klaus Schwab follower. F that clown.


38 posted on 01/08/2021 7:48:01 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: ManHunter

A “Seal” like Jesse Ventura?

I’m ashamed to admit once upon a time Ventura suckered me in.


39 posted on 01/08/2021 7:51:03 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Theo

“And now we’re cancelling Crenshaw.
FReepers are all-in on cancel culture. Easily triggered to cancel their own.

Pathetic.”
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This is about ignorance and malpractice of our elected representatives. We have every right...actually we have a duty...to call them out when they betray us and to vote them out if need be. What is pathetic is excusing their behavior by labeling it cancel culture.


40 posted on 01/08/2021 8:20:14 AM PST by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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