Posted on 01/06/2021 2:34:04 PM PST by RandFan
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Republican Sen. Rand Paul: "My oath to the Constitution doesn’t allow me to disobey the law. I cannot vote to overturn the verdict of the states"
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i sincerely doubt you do
Oh baloney. The White House has changed hands and parties many times, and it will again. You don’t have to like Biden (I don’t) to hold in contempt people thinking this is then end of the world and the finishing of the republic. It’s just another election, Biden’s just another Democrat, just like we’ve had, and survived before.
Bingo! He’s 100% wrong on this, and it’s not even a difficult question. Does Rand think, as Pence apparently does, that the Constitution contains provisions, and confers authority upon government officials, that are merely ceremonial? That’s absurd.
There is a reason why the Congress is given the role of approving and accepting the electoral votes from the states, including a provision for them to OBJECT to the electors when necessary. I mean, what kind of idiocy has suddenly infected these people? How can they possibly misconstrue the role of objecting, of all things, as a merely “ceremonial” function? The obvious purpose for that role is to empower the Congress to at least seek clarity when the electoral votes’ provenance is uncertain, or to reject them outright when they are clearly in error.
A 3-year old could figure this out. Rand Paul isn’t stupid, nor is he ignorant of the Constitution. He simply is yet another coward who is afraid to do what is right.
This needs to be a counter-revolution against the ongoing DC/CCP revolution.
Nope...just time to enforce it......
Peeing on the future existence of the US Constitution, he says he has to honor his oath to it. No question, the Constitution and our liberty will most certainly be destroyed under Biden / Harris and a democrat controlled Congress. Then what is Rand Paul going to swear an oath to, a dictator?
I guess his oath to the Constitution doesn’t allow for clear cut fraud.
Mr. Rand, We the People understand.... Fraud is no longer a criminal act ....
No, the Uniparty only showed different players of the same game. We're well past "business as usual" being TRILLIONS of dollars in the hole where the only way out for failed Democrat states is to force Republican states to bail them out.
There's a line that no one wants to talk about; it's the line of how far into future generations you can borrow money against before the future generations couldn't possibly pay it back. We passed that line and sending in foreign "Replacement Americans" was a poor band-aid and only accelerated the inevitable.
Rand, follow the dang Constitution.
You can postpone the date until issues are resolved or simply throw the delegates out to let their states’ representatives vote in a transparent way.
The country as we knew it is now dead. The Constitution is now no more than toilet paper.
Federal law requires the states to deliver certified electoral college results to the vice president, serving as president of the Senate, and other parties by December 23. Then a joint meeting of Congress is required by the 12th Amendment to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the presidential election. The session on January 6, 2021 starts at 1 p.m.
Objections at that meeting about electors will be settled using a process established by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. The law has its origins in the contested presidential election of 1876 between Samuel Tilden and Rutherford B. Hayes. Several states during the 1876 election sent rival electoral ballots to be considered by Congress, which lacked a procedure to decide among contested slates of electors. The short-term solution was a special 15-person commission (including five House Representatives, five Senators, and five Supreme Court justices) to decide the election, which went to Hayes. In the end, the participating Supreme Court justices cast the deciding votes, after the House and Senate members voted on party lines.
The Electoral Count Act of 1887 and several federal statutes address questions about contested electors that land in Congress. The Congressional Research Service’s current interpretation of the Electoral Count Act explains its understanding of the process when it comes to objections to electoral votes.
“Objections to individual state returns must be made in writing by at least one Member each of the Senate and House of Representatives. If an objection meets these requirements, the joint session recesses and the two houses separate and debate the question in their respective chambers for a maximum of two hours,” the CRS said. “The two houses then vote separately to accept or reject the objection. They then reassemble in joint session, and announce the results of their respective votes. An objection to a state’s electoral vote must be approved by both houses in order for any contested votes to be excluded.”
That interpretation applies to two scenarios in the 2020 election. The first is a situation where only one set of electoral votes is submitted by a state, and objections are raised on grounds that electoral votes were not “regularly given” by an elector, or that electors were not “lawfully certified” according to state laws, according the CRS.
The second scenario applies when two or more slates of electors from the same state are submitted to Congress, as was the case for the 1876 presidential election. It is unclear, said the CRS, if Congress could vote to discard a slate of electoral votes certified by a state if it followed its own election laws. “The assumption presented in the law is that only one list would be from electors who were determined to be appointed pursuant to the state election contest statute (as provided for in 3 U.S.C. §5), and that in such case, only those electors should be counted,” the CRS determined.
Regardless, as of December 15, 2020 the first scenario would seem more likely, unless a state legislature decides to send a second slate of electors to Congress and the Archivist by January 6, 2021. By December 9, 2020, all 50 states and the District of Columbia had certified their electoral votes as required by federal law.
The state legislatures’ job was to direct the manner in which electors are appointed. They did that job, including, with one glaring exception, Michigan, providing the procedures by which election results are challenged. For whatever reason, Trump and his team chose not to take advantage of them.
Two notes for Rand Paul:
1. In 2022 you will be replaced by a demonrat, that’s my prediction because you people have sold out the republican people.
2. “My oath to the Constitution doesn’t allow me to disobey the law” How about obeying the US Code? 3 U.S. Code 15 refers to “lawful votes” being counted and just because some Governors certify a vote doesn’t automatically make that vote “lawful” especially when there is evidence the votes are fraudulent.
Therefore Mr. Paul your words are falling on deaf ears because you are just as phony as the rest of the republican senate.
"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government [emphasis added], and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."
An example of electoral vote fraud in this election is the following imo. Electors are constitutionally intended to act independently of state governors and legislatures imo. So the alleged certification of electoral votes by governors instead of electors in some cases, and alternate destination of electoral votes in Electoral Count Act violate the chain of custody of electoral votes from electors to vice president specified in the 12th Amendment imo.
Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; […]"
Also, the Civil War Union States had ignored any electoral votes of the Confederate States in the 1864 election.
"Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election." — Presidential election of 1864
It absolutely is, but that does not change the issue at hand. If a state has changed the rules of the game, contrary to their State Constitution, and duly ratified laws in place; then the results, whatever they may be, are invalid. If that assumption holds true, then no Congress member should accept the electoral votes delivered to Congress; otherwise, they would be complicit in the fraud and illegalities.
Any Republican that fails to do their duty in the wake of this outrageous election, needs to be primaried, and even if winning the primary; not elected under any circumstances. We are at the current situation because of too many times electing the lesser evil thinking we could kick the can down the road. Well the road has run out.
Trump tried, and made progress in spite of the Democrats, AND the Republican party working against him. The majority of the Republicans in Congress are visibly demonstrating that they don't stand for America either.
Bs, this is it..
Rand is tweeting up a storm with his stupidity.
All Rand and the rest are doing is being complicit in the fraud and condoning it.
Nobody asked you to overturn a single vote. You were told to turn them back to the states for them to decide.
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