Posted on 12/28/2020 9:10:54 PM PST by SteveH
i keep hearing that there is a way for pence to declare many of the EC votes fraudulent.
if pence is given the exclusive responsibility to "count" the votes, then even if alternative state EC slate votes are not formally "delivered" to pence, what if anything would prevent pence from inventing a new concept such as "senate presidential notice" and applying it on the fly to the 2020 election, voiding sufficient EC slates of some corrupt swing states such that the election is thrown to congress?
a rule of thumb i have often heard in engineering is that the cost of a fix to a problem is minimized by applying the fix at the earliest possible moment in the product life cycle. It seems to me irrefutable that the official election results are fraudulent and that this is well understood by a majority of the public.
most people will go along to get along, either way.
the problem is that some people will not go along. on the left there are the antifa, fighting for anarchy and communism. on the right are constitutional conservatives, fighting for principle.
if biden takes the presidency on january 20, the result is in my mind only a deferred conflict, not an avoided conflict. constitutional conservatives will wait in the tall grass until a match sets something on fire and there are casualties.
it seems to me that that wait would not necessarily be very long. with biden and harris in charge, both are likely to be incompetent at resolving national matters with competence. it seems reasonable to anticipate that they will respond to righteous anger by repressive measures. such repressive measures once taken will lead to a downwards spiral in confidence in the national government and in the extreme, open rebellion. all of that would lead to much bloodshed if that path is taken.
pence has a one time, take it or leave it opportunity to minimize such violence. as president of the senate he counts the EC votes, determining which are valid and which are invalid. what will pence's historical legacy be? the guy who ducked as the greatest nation in world history takes a knee to china, corrupt corporations and politicians-- perhaps on a pretext of avoiding bloodshed when some bloodshed is all but inevitable?
if there is to be a conflict, let's have it early. settle matters quickly and humanely for all concerned. we have already had one civil war and we now know that such a civil war can be forecast to last for a few weeks or months, and in fact drag on for years before a military resolution. in our case, the world will probably not wait for us to settle our internal disagreements, and figure that now would be a good time to strike potentially fatal blows against the USA in a time of internal weakness. we should as a matter of national security narrow that time of internal weakness as much as we can, as quickly as we can.
i wonder if pence's upcoming scheduled vacation is timed to remove pence from the national stage for a deliberate reason-- to minimize rancor after an contentious but correct call.
pence, if he chooses, can always point to the supreme court as the villains who would not stand up and be counted when they were needed. in fact, he has to do this for self preservation or else leave himself open to attack from the judicial branch.
> Our modern version of bread and circuses is like nothing humanity has ever experienced in all of recorded history. We did things the Romans never dreamed possible, like making the poor the most likely to be obese. We are also the most passively entertained and the least used to strenuous physical labor outdoors. ... What past civil upheaval would have ever happened with our current societal conditions?
Not that I am advocating anything n particular, but this could be retooled to support the contention that a timely, surgical, and decisive action in DC would encounter minimal resistance in flyover country.
Given human nature, I doubt there would be any resistance from the general populace in reaction to anything that happens in DC or anywhere else over politics. At least while the food, entitlements and entertainment flow.
Freegards
Thanks, you just inspired a new tagline. :)
The process for dealing with the violence is really very simple.
1 - Declare an insurrection
2 - Deploy the Army / Guard
3 - Surround and seal off the area of the riot
4 - Nothing and no one into the area
5 - Allow rioters to surrender to the Army
6 - Strip search all who surrender and confiscate electronic devices
7 - Gather evidence for Federal trials for those that participated in the riots
8 - Once all have surrendered, charge the participants with all crimes committed during the riot
9 - Proceed to Federal trials and take your time presenting the evidence of crimes
10 - Every rioter gets minimum sentence. Those that can be shown directly committing specific crimes get longer sentance.
I post what I think is interesting, and especially that you demand I stop, I will continue to post
are all of your posts content-free?
I asked you to please not post misinformation. It is not correct what you said:
"he's now aware how to file them properly...under article 3 not 2...so the SCOTUS will be forced to listen.
That is a completely false statement. The Supreme Court is never "forced" to take any case. They can decline for a myriad of reasons, beyond Standing and many others.
But knock yourself out - say what you want. I don't think it is helpful, however, to confuse other people or feed them falsehoods.
> The process for dealing with the violence is really very simple.
1 - Declare an insurrection
2 - Deploy the Army / Guard
3 - Surround and seal off the area of the riot
4 - Nothing and no one into the area
5 - Allow rioters to surrender to the Army
6 - Strip search all who surrender and confiscate electronic devices
7 - Gather evidence for Federal trials for those that participated in the riots
8 - Once all have surrendered, charge the participants with all crimes committed during the riot
9 - Proceed to Federal trials and take your time presenting the evidence of crimes
10 - Every rioter gets minimum sentence. Those that can be shown directly committing specific crimes get longer sentance.
I presume (?) that you are referring to the possibility of antifa rioting against peaceful non violent pro USA demonstators in DC on Jan. 6, and how to handle such violent antifa rioters.
Dunno, but i guess it sounds ok to me... i wish i could go but it is too far away, and technically, it seems illegal for me to attend since i am in sf bay where so-called “non-essential” travel is now allegedly illegal. is travel for the purpose of demonstrating support for the constitution in its dying days considered non-essential? Could I tell my local jackboots that Trump overrides them and that after all i am merely “following orders”? We live in interesting times... :-/
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