Thank you for asking this very important question. I'll put a few of my posts below that address it but won't have time to tailor them for this thread.
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1. Trump is a brilliant man. Why would he choose Pence if the man was a back-stabbing DS asset? What advantage did it give him?
I believe there was a deal made and Pence was not presented as a back stabbing DS asset but was a sleeper or later flipped. President Trump and team likely knew what Pence was but they white hats didn't admit they knew. Accepting Pence as VP hamstrung President Trump because he needed a fighter in his corner. It was secretly a DS plan to have Trump's replacement already in place.
Now, Pence is their plan if they can't steal the election and Biden is their man if they can. PS: They can't steal the election; that's why Pence is important to dig on and understand.
I’ve yet to see Pence publicly cause harm to Trump or the Administration. Has he and I missed it?
Pence thought he was under cover and has been playing it very safe because that's the only way he is of strategic value to the DS. At the Bush funeral, he was made aware there was some issue against him, likely his wife's actions. The 2020 SOTU was the first time Nancy Pelosi realized that Pence would help them and Chris Miller's comments were the first time Pence was publicly acknowledged through comms to be unworthy.
So Pence's actions have been behind the scenes. He wears a Covid mask more often than most and pushes the vaccine, but it's likely he's doing more behind the scenes. The fact that Nancy didn't know he was DS seems to mean that Pence has never had comms with her and likely doesn't trust traditional communications (white hats would find out he's in comm with black hats).
So he hasn't delivered on harm publicly YET; his job now is to get people to trust him, take the vaccine, and step in to help remove Trump or if Trump is removed.
2. The Chris Miller, Pence clip- interesting. I would not equate Pence with military operations. Did he have a military background or schooling?
In all of the digging I did, I never came across any assertion that he had military experience or training. His son is also named Mike and the photo Pence is shown in riding in the back of a convertable with 2nd Lt. USMC refers to his son. Oddly enough, it seems like information about his son has been scrubbed from Google. DuckDuckGo had family pictures etc.
Regarding Miller’s compliment on mentoring, was this sincere?
Courage: Christopher Miller served in the military for a total of 29 years. 11 of those years were spent serving as a Green Beret. Miller commanded 5th Special Forces Group in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a defense contractor.
Wisdom: He received a Master of Arts in national security studies from the Naval War College in 2001. He also graduated from the College of Naval Command and Staff and the Army War College.
A combat veteran of Miller's achievement would have an entirely different, higher standard for courage than civilians who have not served. It's inconceivable to me that Christopher Miller could consider Mike Pence's tepid, lackluster career as a politician a mentor in terms of wisdom and courage.
Miller would never entrust implementation of spec ops to anyone of Pence's background. So no, Miller was not sincere.
Sounded so. What purpose did it have as this speech did not get a lot of press. So again, what purpose did it serve Miller to be anything other than sincere?
I think Miller did it to put a spotlight on Pence, similar to the way President Trump says in his tweets about traitor Nellie Ohr, that she's a lovely woman. When it isn't time yet to say what one thinks, one can say the opposite in such a way that serves the same purpose.
At this point, not much MSM coverage is given to any Trump official. The Deep State would probably not want that speech to get any attention, just as they blacked out coverage President Trump's recent two speeches.
3. Lin Woods tweet about Pence. He says Pence is a Black Hat not to be trusted. Why? Is Miller then an idiot, easily taken in? As much as I respect Woods, I’ve never heard of him till the Sandman case. How much of what Lin says can be trusted in this instance?
I formed my opinion without having read Lin Woods tweets first. My opinion started early; my personal read of Pence is discordant; his eyes glare and his mouth smiles. He seemed weak, and then he received a white envelope along with other traitors at the Bush Sr. funeral. He has a reputation for calm but I believe he has a substantial temper.
Miller is not easily taken in, he's part of the Trump administration and has to comply with whatever deal or goals that currently restrains President Trump for now.
BardFM has a theory that Wallstreet told President Trump that he had to accept Pence as VP (this doesn't mean he was out as a black hat then) or they would crash the market until there was nothing left to resist Chinese take over. That's probably at least one of multiple ways they forced Pence upon President Trump, all done in a nice way of course.
Miller is no idiot. He would not have said what he did unless given the green light to shine a spotlight on Pence.
Frankly I think many white hats have been biting back "saying things" to the traitors in our government. I believe the 2020 SOTU was the first time I saw President Trump, and first Lady Melania, allow their true feelings about the swamp they've had to socialize, even before he began his 2016 campaign, show on their faces. Both looked enraged.
It logically follows that if we are debating what information/individual can be trusted, then the enemy must be as nearly confused. So if this is the case, as Q really likes to call DS stupid, then long live all their confusion right through to Jan 20th.
If people knew Pence was Deep State, he would be less successful in getting them "shot" (vaccinated). It's important the public wake up and realize they can't trust Pence and they must not get shot.
A key threat is if comms are interupted, and/or Nancy goes forward with her expressed plans to set up a presidency even if Trump remains in office, the public must not believe Pence. The example I've been giving is if Trump were "mysteriously taken out of the way" and it's blamed on the Red Dragon (China) then Pence assumes the presidency and America falls. Biden is Plan A, Pence is Plan B.
From a prior post:
Actually I have had issues with Pence from the start, and after 9 months of Operation Warp Speed, I doubted my judgement because President Trump wouldn’t put Pence in charge of producing a safe vaccine unless Pence was trusted.
But Trump didn’t have a choice to stop the development of the vaccine. In reality Pence’s willingness to push it, pretend to take it himself, exposes his loyalty to the deep state COvid-19 farce. That’s why Pence often wears a mask to events when others around him do not.
SO I don’t have to trust MSM for my believ that Pence is a black hat. I do recall now hearing before that Pence “set up” Flynn with the FBI, according to an analyst I trusted, but I didn’t look up their links/sources so I didn’t reference it.
To All:
If tomorrow we had an EAM from Pence urging public calm and stating that the President was missing after his plane went down etc., we have to know how to respond (FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT), we can’t afford to “wait to see how it all turns out” as UN troops arrive to “help”.
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Greeneyes: I read at the time, that Pence asked Fauci to be on the Covid Response Team.
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Yes, I'd read Pence chose the Covid Team including Fauci.
You know, I just got done reading WIkipedia's bio of Mike Pence and a variety of web articles.
Mike has made some curious decisions I guess I can ignore (using campaign funds for personal expenses etc. in manner technically not illegal at the time) but what stands out is he has little to nothing to show for his years in Congress.
He was in congress for 12 years, authored 90 bills, none of which passed.
He seems to have been a paper pushing bland administrator. His strength is social policy (conservative values) but he seems to little ability to get anything done or influence public opinion. He was on agriculture committees and a few international committees.
Pence ran for party leadership in 2006 against John Boehner, and lost among fellow House Republicans 168 to 27. His highest attainment was 3rd in line to party leadership, when he ran unopposed.
Pence's resume seems to indicate he cannot lead the public and had little impact - that's not the kind of person Trump would ever pick for one of his hotel staff, let alone to be the person who would have to fight fight fight and convince the public to awaken.
There are hints that some wanted Pence to run as president in 2008 and 2012. In 2010, after 9 years of a forgettable tenure in congress with no real accomplishments, a straw pole was conducted by Values Voter Summit and he was a top pick for a presidential run. Were black hats trying to insert him back then?!
He's photographed with mil at VA or other ceremonies but has no military background. He's photographed in 2015 riding in a parade car with Mike Pence, USMC mil rank and on the car door. The USMC rank seems to refer to Pence's son, riding in the car on the other side of Pence unseen.
His career drifts along as governor, and based on his experience, President Trump supposedly wanted him him for VP knowing his term would be battle for the republic?! Some of the articles from 2016 note that few knew who Pence was when he was announced. Most agree Pence is not presidential material, so choosing him as VP eliminated the chance for President Trump to have "coat tails".
After researching more, I was really convinced that my instincts re right that Pence is Deep State, and then I came across Thomas Wictor's 6 minute video for 12/25.
Having watched Wictor's video right after digging, I have reality whiplash.
Thomas Wictor asserts that a mil op to collect election fraud evidence launched Nov 7 was implemented by.....PENCE! I believe the Deep State needs to defend Pence after Miller's comments.
Wictor says the election operation was conducted on Nov 7 by DNI spec ops, that Def Sec Miller had to have known about it, and the one and only person to directly receive all captured evidence was Ezra Watnick-Cohen.
Wictor claims Ezra oversaw the operation, and Mike Pence was in charge of implementation!!! No military background, yet Pence is supposedly implementing Ezra's spec ops plans to save the presidency and with it, America and freedom around the world. I think Miller would have handled it himself rather than giving implementation to Pence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOLPP8ksieQ
Wictor has been uneven in the past - sometimes I swear him off, sometimes he comes through. He blinks on and off like @JohnHereToHelp. I found today's Wictor Thomas offering too unbelievable. :(
