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How to get people from Earth to Mars and safely back again
phys.org ^ | December 21, 2020 | Chris James

Posted on 12/21/2020 9:34:04 PM PST by BenLurkin

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To: curious7

Ben, that was the core of Zubrin’s “Mars Direct” plan. NASA killed it because it could be done with existing technology, so no lucrative rakeoffs for private contractors and no revolving door for the corrupt administrators. Of course, whether it was worth doing is another matter.


41 posted on 12/22/2020 1:03:31 AM PST by Samuel Smiles
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To: Telepathic Intruder
How could they get this wrong? It actually takes a little over 6 months.

I think the author may have pulled the 9 month figure from Wikipedia. The Perseverance rover trip is about 6.5 months. The Curiosity rover took a little over 8 months. The Insight lander took a bit over was 6.5 months or so. I am guessing the time travelled is dependent on nailing the launch window and the launch vehicle required to get there..

42 posted on 12/22/2020 1:07:31 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Seruzawa

43 posted on 12/22/2020 1:53:23 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: BenLurkin

Or we could get them to come here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZthm2QasqM


44 posted on 12/22/2020 2:04:58 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: mass55th
What if we don’t want them safely back again?

Like liberal democrats? I would be all for that. 😁🤪

45 posted on 12/22/2020 2:16:51 AM PST by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. )
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To: Varsity Flight
First Men on the Moon. With that stuff.

Lionel Jeffries was a trip, wasn’t he?

46 posted on 12/22/2020 2:25:00 AM PST by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. )
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To: Seruzawa
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
47 posted on 12/22/2020 2:27:49 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: BenLurkin

This article is a joke. If we continue on the present path, we’ll be wearing rags and killing each other with sticks and rocks in a decade.


48 posted on 12/22/2020 3:19:04 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it.)
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To: BenLurkin

I’d just find a worm hole and get there in no time.


49 posted on 12/22/2020 3:43:38 AM PST by enumerated
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To: BenLurkin

There are only two human habitable destinations in the Solar System - the Moon, and Mars.

Besides basic scientific research and space tourism, what else are we supposed to do there?

We need to invest in space robots.

Planet Earth will eventually progress to Star Wars level space travel.

But, not for thousands of years.


50 posted on 12/22/2020 3:58:31 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: EVO X

By definition, however, a Hohmann transfer is a minimum energy transfer. Any variation in timeframe, either longer or shorter, is no longer the minimum energy. But I have a history for nitpicking scientific inaccuracies. Especially in movies. You don’t want to hear them.


51 posted on 12/22/2020 4:00:03 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: zeestephen

It will NEVER be possible to approach the speed of light. NEVER.


52 posted on 12/22/2020 4:00:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: BenLurkin

1. Send a rocket with robots and cameras. No need for oxygen, food, temperature control, gravity substitutes, and no time restriction.

2. Send the data and videos back to earth for anybody to watch and share.

[99% of the effort of a manned probe is involved in keeping the humans alive for the long trip, and all 99.9999999 % of humanity is going to see are videos anyway, so skip the humans, and send many more cheap and expendable robot probes.]


53 posted on 12/22/2020 4:21:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mewzilla

I only discovered that movie about five years ago and watch it every Christmas season.


54 posted on 12/22/2020 4:22:45 AM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: central_va

That may be true.

On the other hand, it may not be necessary.

I mean, almost no one saw quantum physics or E=MC squared coming a hundred years ago.

I am thinking we will have a couple more big surprises to digest before the new millennium is over.


55 posted on 12/22/2020 4:24:19 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

See 53.

I agree about robots, but not about Mars and the Moon being habitable.

If humans cannot walk around without being sealed within a self-contained environment in a pressurized space suit, breathing the local atmosphere, in a temperature range that won’t kill them, then the place by definition is not habitable.


56 posted on 12/22/2020 4:24:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Songcraft

To Manchester in a Ford Cortina.

Gene Hunt’s way.


57 posted on 12/22/2020 4:43:55 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Travis McGee

I should have said survivable.

Every other place in the solar system...

No solid ground.

Too hot.

Too much radiation.

Not enough gravity.

Pluto might be survivable, but bring a winter coat.


58 posted on 12/22/2020 4:47:25 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I believe venus could be made habitable much easier than mars.


59 posted on 12/22/2020 5:38:36 AM PST by dereknunley
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Rereading the article and a bit more reading on the subject, the author implies going to Mars in less than 9 months(Hohmann transfer)as some new concept. The Perseverance Rover spacecraft makes 5 trajectory-correction maneuvers along the way to arrive in ~6.5 months. The Mars transfer type depends upon what needs to be done when the spacecraft arrives at Mars.


60 posted on 12/22/2020 5:57:41 AM PST by EVO X
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