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Help wanted to file objection to certified WA slate of electors for Constitutionally unqualified Sen. Harris as VP.
12/15/2020 | Rideforever

Posted on 12/15/2020 10:14:58 AM PST by RideForever

Help Wanted.

I contacted my Congress Rep to raise interest in objecting to the Harris electors now 'certified' for Washington State. Now that we are in Art. II, or 'political' phase of the Presidential election, the Natural Born Citizen ('NBC') qualification found in the US Constitution may be addressed.

Sen. Harris' parents were here on visas issued for their passports from India and Jamaica. Both countries practice birthright by bloodline, in contradiction to US policy. Clearly they were subject to the foreign jurisdictions which issued their passports. Her father became a naturalized US citizen after she was born, and he states that his daughter is not a US NBC.

Now we have a small window to file objections as voters to record an objection with the Electoral College by way of a court case, according to WA election law.


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To: RideForever

Wow. I found a case filed in CA a week ago asking for the same thing.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjC5cLc59DtAhWlGjQIHSy3AM8QFjADegQIAxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.courtlistener.com%2Frecap%2Fgov.uscourts.casd.694824%2Fgov.uscourts.casd.694824.1.0.pdf&usg=AOvVaw15TNNKbYlygrNgO-KByEq6


41 posted on 12/15/2020 1:14:44 PM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: AFret.
"Here we go again...of course she is a citizen, but she is not a NBC."

She certainly is a natural born citizen. She was born in Oakland CA.

42 posted on 12/15/2020 1:36:19 PM PST by mlo
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To: RideForever
Supreme Court says she is a naturalized citizen via the 14th Amendment since the whore was born in the United States.

All hail Judicial Supremacy.
43 posted on 12/15/2020 1:39:58 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: RideForever
"... and subject to a foreign jurisdiction which you have yet to explain why it doesn't apply. In fact, you avoid the argument in all your posts."

You obviously haven't seen all my posts.

"In fact, you seem to be factless in all your posts."

You really haven't seen all my posts. But even the ones you have are not factless. You just disagree with them.

"Perhaps you should read more and post less. Start with Minor v. Happersett (SCOTUS)."

Been there, done that. It doesn't say what birthers want it to say.

44 posted on 12/15/2020 1:41:04 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
Her parents were not citizens when she was born and she was not a former slave (That crap ending legally around 100 years before she was born).

She is "in" because of the degeneracy of case law/Judicial Supremacy/Judicial Equity.
45 posted on 12/15/2020 1:44:29 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: Bellagio
"Legal definition of a Natural Born Citizen derived from the … FIRST CONGRESS. Sess. II CH 3. 1790 (approved March 26, 1790) ‘Natural Born’ citizen is citizenship inherited from the parents, NOT by statute..."

Incorrect. That statute wasn't defining "natural born citizen". It specifically covered children who were born outside the country. It didn't mention children born inside. It was a statute passed to govern the citizenship of people born overseas.

46 posted on 12/15/2020 1:46:02 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
She certainly is a natural born citizen. She was born in Oakland CA.

... of parents SUBJECT TO A FOREIGN JURISDICTION. You usually lie by leaving this qualifying phrase out of your statements. It is called a lie of omission.

47 posted on 12/15/2020 1:47:51 PM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: mlo

EXCUSE ME:

YOU are wrong.

Harris is a NATIVE BORN citizen...SAME as an ANCHOR BABY.

She is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN...

She is NOT eligible to be President or to hold any position that can succeed President.


48 posted on 12/15/2020 1:48:03 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Bellagio
"She did not inherit her citizenship though her parents... neither of her parents were US citizens(they were foreign nationals at the time of her birth) and she became a US citizen by statute, birth right naturalization under US jurisdiction on US soil(aka: anchor baby, 14th amendment). To be qualified to be VP her US citizenship CANNOT be by statute naturalization..."

The 14th Amendment is not a statute. People born in the US are not citizens by "statute naturalization". They are natural born citizens.

49 posted on 12/15/2020 1:48:27 PM PST by mlo
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To: Bellagio

YOU ARE 100000% correct...


50 posted on 12/15/2020 1:48:52 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: mlo
She may be a native born citizen, but she is not a "natural born citizen". A "natural born citizen" is a child born of TWO citizen parents. Neither of her parents were citizens at the time of her birth.

That is what I was taught in grade and high school. Obama arrives on the scene, and suddenly the meaning changes.

51 posted on 12/15/2020 1:49:04 PM PST by SMM48
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To: Bellagio

READ the Constitution

Article II

Section 1

Clause 5

BOTH parents MUST be USA citizens at the time child is born for child to be NATURAL BORN.

Kamala’s parents didn’t get their citizenship until 5-6 years later.

Harris —at best—Native Born AKA Anchor Baby


52 posted on 12/15/2020 1:52:10 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: mlo

SERIOUSLY-—Please go reqad Article II

Section 1

Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

YOU ARE WRONG...

And YES, I am using caps on purpose.

I have tried to get people to understand this for years-—when Obama sneaked aboard.


53 posted on 12/15/2020 1:54:11 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Kurmudgeon

There is Natural Born

There is Native Born

There are Anchor Babies.

NOT ALL THE SAME


54 posted on 12/15/2020 1:55:45 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Kurmudgeon

Think of it this way:

IF you own 2 dogs that are registered AKC, their offspring can be registered AKC.

IF one is not registered-—or if both are not registered...

You only have mutts.

Kamala is a MUTT


55 posted on 12/15/2020 1:57:42 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: SMM48
"She may be a native born citizen, but she is not a "natural born citizen". A "natural born citizen" is a child born of TWO citizen parents. Neither of her parents were citizens at the time of her birth."

That's wrong. There is no requirement anywhere in US law that one's parents be citizens in order to be a natural born citizen. None. That's a made up birther notion.

"That is what I was taught in grade and high school. Obama arrives on the scene, and suddenly the meaning changes."

Not true either. The birther version was not being taught in schools, let alone the fact that grade school and high school are not law school. And nothing changed with Obama except that a bunch of birthers started distorting what the law has always been because they wanted to wish him away.

56 posted on 12/15/2020 1:58:45 PM PST by mlo
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To: mquinn

NO SHE IS NOT.

Neither of her parents were citizens of this country when she was born.

Technically she is a citizen of Jamaica......thru her father.

Unclear about her Indian mother & status there.


57 posted on 12/15/2020 2:00:02 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: mlo

This is an excellent read on the Minor v. Happersett case. Among other things, it incorporated women into the legal definition of citizens.

It also defines citizen as someone born of citizen parents (plural!). Neither of Sen. Harris’ parents were ‘citizen parents’ of the US.

Reference, should you care to read instead of post garbage -

https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/


58 posted on 12/15/2020 2:05:37 PM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: mlo

The 14th Amendment ONLY applies to the offspring of slaves...

Ntural Born is in the Constitution......much earlier.


59 posted on 12/15/2020 2:06:26 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: mquinn

Sorry friend. But you are mistaken. There is a long legal history of several hundred citable years on this. It is like trying to compare apples and oranges - they simply are different things in the law.


60 posted on 12/15/2020 2:11:50 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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