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Help wanted to file objection to certified WA slate of electors for Constitutionally unqualified Sen. Harris as VP.
12/15/2020 | Rideforever

Posted on 12/15/2020 10:14:58 AM PST by RideForever

Help Wanted.

I contacted my Congress Rep to raise interest in objecting to the Harris electors now 'certified' for Washington State. Now that we are in Art. II, or 'political' phase of the Presidential election, the Natural Born Citizen ('NBC') qualification found in the US Constitution may be addressed.

Sen. Harris' parents were here on visas issued for their passports from India and Jamaica. Both countries practice birthright by bloodline, in contradiction to US policy. Clearly they were subject to the foreign jurisdictions which issued their passports. Her father became a naturalized US citizen after she was born, and he states that his daughter is not a US NBC.

Now we have a small window to file objections as voters to record an objection with the Electoral College by way of a court case, according to WA election law.


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1 posted on 12/15/2020 10:14:58 AM PST by RideForever
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To: RideForever

Don’t waste your time. Harris was born in the US. She is a natural born citizen. Her parents have nothing to do with it.


2 posted on 12/15/2020 10:19:56 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

All you offer is a factless denial of a troll.

Better you didn’t post here on FR.


3 posted on 12/15/2020 10:29:13 AM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: RideForever

There’s a long history on this subject and it’s been beat to death. You don’t know what you are talking about. Regardless of the fact that you posted no facts yourself.


4 posted on 12/15/2020 10:32:28 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

No offense, but you are wasting your time with these natural born cultists. They are like chemtrails nuts. There is no getting through to them.


5 posted on 12/15/2020 10:33:31 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: mlo

Bull Shit!

Kamala Harris is constitutionally unqualified to be VP. She IS NOT a natural born citizen. She is born in USA to NON-citizen parents which makes her a citizen by statute. ‘Natural Born’ citizen is citizenship inherited from the parents. Which means her parents MUST be US citizens without dual allegiance/citizenship at the time of her birth and born within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

What DON’T you not understand, ignoramus.


6 posted on 12/15/2020 10:36:55 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: Seruzawa

Exactly, US law inherits the definition of natural born from English Common Law (Blackstone) which is any one born in the United States. It does not use the definition in Vattel which only applies to Roman-Dutch law used in Continental Europe.


7 posted on 12/15/2020 10:38:03 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: RideForever; mlo
mlo is correct: Don't waste your time. At, least at this point.

Trump will address this State Dept. fiction in his second term and ten's of thousands of past U.S. school teachers will be relieved.

At the same time, mlo is incorrect with his assertion She is a natural born citizen.

At best, she is a native born citizen and not a NBC, at least in the very important and obvious national security sense intended by the founders. But we will not resolve the issue here on these pages.

8 posted on 12/15/2020 10:39:07 AM PST by frog in a pot (The American voter should realize there is nothing democratic about the current Democrat Party.)
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To: RideForever

Kamala Harris is constitutionally unqualified to be VP. She IS NOT a natural born citizen. She is born in USA to NON-citizen parents which makes her a citizen by statute. ‘Natural Born’ citizen is citizenship inherited from the parents. Which means her parents MUST be US citizens without dual allegiance/citizenship at the time of her birth and born within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Don’t listen to the ignoramuses who don’t have a clue what Natural Born means.


9 posted on 12/15/2020 10:39:12 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: GreenLanternCorps

LOL! Wrong and you have nothing to support your claim.


10 posted on 12/15/2020 10:41:53 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: RideForever

Hi.

Government doesn’t pay attention to the Constitution or its amendments. If they ignore the First and Second amendments, they will ignore the first clause of the fourteenth.

Think about it, what happened to Japanese and German babies born in the U.S. before the war were citizens? No.

Unfortunately the case is moot.

Ask that Dr., forget her name who tried to get 0bama disqualified.

Good luck.

5.56mm


11 posted on 12/15/2020 10:42:29 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: Bellagio
"‘Natural Born’ citizen is citizenship inherited from the parents"

That is incorrect birther nonsense. It is only inherited from the parents if the child is born outside the country. If born inside the country, as Harris was, her parent's status does not matter.

12 posted on 12/15/2020 10:43:01 AM PST by mlo
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I will go further. Harris is NOT even an American citizen. She is an anchor baby, born to non-citizen parents. Harris should be deported, period!


13 posted on 12/15/2020 10:43:57 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: mlo

No, what you drivel is incorrect nonsense.


14 posted on 12/15/2020 10:44:48 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: mlo

You are dead wrong. She is not a natural born citizen.


15 posted on 12/15/2020 10:46:15 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Bellagio

“...She is born in USA to NON-citizen parents which makes her a citizen by statute....”

So, she’s just another “anchor baby”.


16 posted on 12/15/2020 10:48:15 AM PST by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: RideForever

Won’t happen. Here’s the rub: if Trump and his legal team have been denied even an airing of well-documented fraud and corruption all based on either “too late” or “lack standing”, then I really don’t know how anyone would get through the door on this possibly Constitutional issue... First - because they will say such objections should have been aired out months (or more) ago. Second - good luck getting “standing” if you somehow were to get beyond the other obstacle.


17 posted on 12/15/2020 10:49:04 AM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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“The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born
subjects.1 Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the
crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the
allegiance, of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it. Allegiance is the tie, or
ligamen, which binds the subject to the king, in return for that protection which the
king affords the subject. The thing itself, or substantial part of it, is founded in reason
and the nature of government; the name and the form are derived to us from our
Gothic ancestors.”

“Commentaries on the Laws of England” - Sir William Blackstone

CHAPTER X.
OF THE PEOPLE, WHETHER ALIENS, DENIZENS, OR
NATIVES.

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2140/Blackstone_1387-01_EBk_v6.0.pdf

The definition used by the founders of Natural Born is that of Blackstone, which every lawyer in the Colonies would have had a copy.

The Common Law definitions were inherited by the states and the United States upon independence.

There are a multitude of reasons Kamala Harris should not be Vice-President, the circumstances of her birth are not one of them.


18 posted on 12/15/2020 10:49:14 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I don’t know whether she is Unqualified or not, but I find it interesting that obama selected her to be the next president. Poor Joe has no clue how little time he has left.


19 posted on 12/15/2020 10:51:29 AM PST by WVNan
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To: GreenLanternCorps

This thread is going the way they usually do. The Cultists calling everyone who disagrees with them “ignorant”. Then it’s “evil” next. Or “dupe”. Never mind a century of case law to the contrary. This is like the people who thought they didn’t have to pay taxes because the Federal Court flags have gold fringe on them.


20 posted on 12/15/2020 10:52:40 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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