Posted on 12/07/2020 4:51:25 AM PST by Enlightened1
A systematic review published 12/3/20 by the Oxford U has confirmed that cov2 rtPCR testing patient sample cycle thresholds >30 are associated with NEGATIVE viral cultures. What does that mean? It means that roughly 80% of all "positives" being reported in your state/region are likely non-infectious and clinically meaningless. If health authoritarians changed the testing standard by lowering the cycle threshold (CT) cutoff to less than "30", cases would magically drop 80+ percent.
Excerpt from the study:
..."Complete live viruses are necessary for transmission, not the fragments identified by PCR. Those with high cycle threshold are unlikely to have infectious potential"...
As the truth surrounding PCR testing continues to surface, more people will begin to understand just how local Government and the CDC have ignored the real science, and have continued to use sweeping, high cycle PCR testing as means to justify lockdowns and restrictions.
Study: https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1764/6018217
That’s why Rudy Giuliani needs to be re-tested and then re-tested.
Remember Elon Musk a few weeks ago had four tests - two negative and two positive.
COLLUSION
The public is being controlled with fake news on everything from the Wuhan virus to suppressing proof of voter fraud. The truth is going to destroy the media.
Me? Rational? LOL
In all seriousness, though, I get your point. Well stated.
“bags of mostly water”
The PCR test is not designed for diagnosis. The PCR test does not look for the whole Wuhan virus, only a segment of it. That segment could be shared with another corona virus.
So all a positive PR test, even at 24 or less cycles is that it found a segment of a virus that matches what it is looking for, not if it is the Wuhan virus or another corona virus, not how much virus, nor if the virus segment is alive or dead.
“Desantis - best Gov in the country - is already on it.”
It is partially because he is very intelligent and has common sense. They said that from the beginning of Covid he would look at the statistics and analyze it quickly and make his decisions.
Omg. I am sorry. I was not taking a shot. Despite our occasional dust uos I find you to be quite rational
Christy Noem is still Hawter...
It’s like E coli...it lives in our intestines as a norm.
No worries, it’s all good! I don’t recall any dust-ups at all that we’ve had, but even if we did, my admiration for the depth of your knowledge remains unchanged. :-)
This drama bug isn’t about medicine or the truth about it, it is about communist control.
90% of our “leaders” are WORTHLESS.
Ping
They don't care about the real scientific evidence or the truth about the testing thresholds.
If they had this information in hand, they would bury it and double down on their tyrannical, draconian mandates over the populations they control.
The government politicians and bureaucrats engaging in this lockdown/masks rules like it like that. They don't want evidence that they can stop this madness and get back to normal.
This is all ego boosting to them. It allows them to practice their skills at wannabe dictators. They're in Marxist, hog heaven.
Guess what? The virus is an inert (dead) particle that isn't going away. It will be around our lives forever, like most viruses are. Hide and stay in your house in a lockdown and it will still be there waiting for you when you go back outside.
The entire population has been masking up, social distancing and locking down for most of the year under the guise of getting rid of this virus.
And lo and behold, here we are almost a year later and the number of "new cases" and "deaths" (both numbers are suspect and manipulated and a subject for another discussion) have exploded according to so-called "health authorities" and what is their response to this increase?
To double down on mask wearing and lockdowns. Typical Leftist maneuver. Keep doing the same thing, expecting a different outcome.
We didn't need a study to tell us what most of us already knew. That this pandemic was hijacked by the Marxist Left from the very beginning for their financial and political gains and not for the health and well-being of the population.
***There is a lesson there if rational people want to learn it.***
Great point. Thank you again for dispensing uncommon (these days) sense.
But if you are correct then there have been far fewer actual cases but the number of deaths remains static. The numerator remains the same. The denominator is reduced. Fatality rate therefore increases.
Do you accept the validity of antigen tests ? Same for the antibody serological .
“But if you are correct then there have been far fewer actual cases but the number of deaths remains static. The numerator remains the same. The denominator is reduced. Fatality rate therefore increases.
Do you accept the validity of antigen tests ? Same for the antibody serological .”
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The problem is that the stats are flaws six ways to Sunday.
And the meaning of cases has been redefined. A case of the flu once meant an active sick person with the flu not someone who test positive on a test designed for research not diagnosis.
We do not know how many have contracted the Wuhan Flu. We will never have an accurate count. This is a sad and frightening comment on that current state of ‘science’.
Although FauXi denies it, the science, studies show approximately 50% of the population have a measure of cross immunity from a prior cold from a corona virus stored in T memory cells. They will either fight off the Wuhan virus or only get a mild cold-like case.
You could see that played out on the Diamond Princess in a room where one person got sick and the other quarantined with them didn’t.
Wuhan Virus deaths have been calculated in a very ‘generous’ manner. You don’t need a positive PCR test to be counted. Hospitals have a major financial incentive to label everyone COVID.
The CDC has admitted only 6% of those listed as deaths from The Wuhan Virus are from the Virus alone, i.e. 10,000 to 12,000 not the 250,000+ that are shouted from the rooftops.
Therefore the numerator is not be very large. No one knows what the denominator is.
The remaining 94% either were elderly with multiple comorbidities or died from something that had nothing to do with the virus, e.g. run over by a truck and while in hospital.
Many of those with comorbidities (and the virus itself) could have been saved with early treatment with HCQ, zinc, Zpac. HCQ has a better safety profile than tylenol.
As to antigen tests and antibody serology I have not spent enough time researching the technology and accuracy to judge.
There seems to be more than one flavor of these tests.
Got a positive PCR from a Nov 30 test by Quest here in NV
Test also states “Reference Range Not detected” so in isolation and really have no symptoms (no fever)
The kicker is we all got tested after someone here in the house got sick back on the 20th then went in to the hospital on the 27th and got a positive test in hospital Nov 30 (yes has very sick with full on Covid..there are getting better now)
Other then me no one else got a positive here at the house
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