Voting System Proposal

ZPRC ^ | 12/05/2020 | Zeugma

[zeugma]

Voting System Proposal

The recent Presidential election has brought up a lot of issues surrounding voting and the tallying of these votes. After thinking about it a bit, I figured I'd write up what I think would be a proposal for a way to have voting and vote tabulating systems that would be verifiable, open, and transparent.

1. All voters shall be positively identified via standard state or national ID, i.e., drivers licenses, state ID cards, military ID, or passport). Each positively identified individual shall be logged both locally and reported immediately to a centralized location to combat fraud. This list of individuals will be consulted to validate any mail in ballots. Mail in voting shall be restricted to military or expatriate individuals. If you want to vote, show up.

2. All actual ballots shall be paper. They shall be human readable, and also able to be processed easily by machines for tabulation.

3. Ballots shall be printed on demand via laser printers at leach polling location. The only thing that should be necessary at the polling places is toner and paper.

4. All ballot printing devices shall be identical to the maximum degree possible. The computer used to produce ballots shall have no local hard drive, and shall be booted from read-only media such as CD-ROM or DVD. Information about ballots that will be used to print them shall be contained in XML or CSV format that is human-readable and verifiable. All config files shall have a cryptographic hash that can be verified and validated by any concerned party. (See PRINTING below.)

5. All tabulating systems shall be identical to the maximum degree possible. All software on the tabulating systems should be open source, so that they can be validated by any organization that cares to do so.

6. Tabulating systems would be booted from read-only media such as CD-ROM or DVD

7. Tabulating systems should have no local storage, except for removable media, such as SD cards, which will be individually numbered. Micro-SD cards are too small to be individually numbered, so they should not be used.

8. Each SD cards would initially be identical, and verifiability so. All configuration files shall have a cryptographic hash that can be validated both before and after the election. Each configuration file would be human readable, as either XML or CSV data.

9. Upon the conclusion of all voting, a copy shall be made of each SD card used by any printing and/or tabulating device. (see IMAGING below). Once this copy is made, all cards shall be sealed in a tamper-evident enclosure. A copy of the results of each cryptographic hash and actual disk images shall be provided to any interested party. A copy of each of these should also be provided to each candidate listed on the ballot if requested.

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Printing

As mentioned above, there will be no pre-printed ballots. This prevents issues arising of not having enough ballots at a particular location. A given polling location might want to use touchscreens. That is OK, but the ballots produced by these touchscreen devices must be human-readable. Ideally, the only difference between a touchscreen ballot and a standard paper ballot would be that all of the squares or boxes used to indicate a voter's preferences would be filled in by the printer as it is produced.

The individual choices available on the ballot will be determined when the voter presents his ID. If a touchscreen is used, the voter will be handed a slip of paper that will contain whatever information is necessary to display/print the correct ballot. In those locations using strictly a paper system the printed ballot given to the voter would be generated in a similar manner.

I live in Texas, so I am going to use the information found on my voters registration card as an example. My address indicates exatly which races/districts and whatnot are appropriate for me. Here's the information I get on my card (None of the numbers are actually the numbers on my personal card):

Voter number:	1234567890
Gender	M
Valid from	01/01/2020
Valid Through	12/31/2021
Year of Birth	1968
Prec. No	4112-01
CONG	020
St. Sen	011
St. Rep	050
Comm	003
JP/Con	016
City	032
City Ward	000
St. Edu	12

Using the data from the above table, the exact proper ballot can be printed. This information should be printed on the ballot in both human readable and an easily verifiable machine readable format (such as a QR Code, which can be read by almost any cellphone.) The voter number would not be printed on the ballot (else you'd be able to correlate a particular voter to a particular ballot) Perhaps a random unique string could be used and logged so as to facilitate forensics, as long as the number could not be associated with an individual voter. If the number printed on the ballot is not in the logs, it would be an invalid vote. Only the information above starting with "Prec. No" would be used along with that unique random number. One way to keep from being able to do this would be to have a stack of 10 or so identical ballots. The voter would pick randomly from the stack, and another blank for that precinct added to the stack. Once all voting is completed. Each unused ballot in the stack would be marked as spoiled (which would be a checkbox on the ballot) and either placed aside, or fed into the counting machine as a spoiled, null, ballot. Thus a log entry for every valid and invalid votes would be maintained.

I'm tempted to say that there should also be a QR Code image of the information on the ballot, but that would tempt someone who might be interested in bribing folks to vote a certain way, because the person paying for the vote could actually validate what was voted. This is something that has to be considered in any voting system. Of course, these days it's also possible for the voter to take a picture of his vote given that just about every phone on the planet has a camera built in, so maybe that might be less of a concern than it might have been in the past. I would lean against it in any case.

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Imaging

As mentioned above, the only thing in the Printing / Tabulating systems that can be written to are removable media such as SD cards. One thing that those interested in the integrity of the vote would be interested in would be a verifiable way to obtain copies of all data relevant to the vote. The following is a method that might be useful to generate such documentation.

All hardware would be designed in such a way that a given device can be used at any polling location. The information printed or displayed to the voter would be based on config files contained on the removable media, which for our purposes at the moment, we'll assume are SD cards. I'm also going to focus below primarily on cards utilized for tabulation purposes. Those used for printing ballots would all be identical. Using the same methods below, this could be trivially validated.

With observers present. The procedure below will create a validated image of the card that can be saved, and provided to anyone who wants to look at it from a forensics or data perspective.

All of the following can be performed from just about any Unix/Linux computer, and is completely read-only on the card itself. At no point is the card even mounted for writing. In the following, lines that start with "###" are my comments explaining what is being done. Lines that start with "$" are the actual commands being issued.

### First, create an empty directory
$ mkdir votecards

### change to that directory $ cd votecards/

### verify the directory is empty $ ls -l total 0

### Without mounting the card, create an image of it on the local hard disk $ sudo dd if=/dev/sdd1 of=card0001.img 246175+0 records in 246175+0 records out 126041600 bytes (126 MB, 120 MiB) copied, 16.2103 s, 7.8 MB/s

### verify that the image file exists. $ ls -l total 123092 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126041600 Dec 5 19:49 card0001.img

### Get a cryptographic hash of the image. Have all observers write this hash down. $ sha256sum card0001.img 6f4624afb94125a4ca0ac0c3a1cde7b4e9566f5de89f26eb1125d2977b44cf08 card0001.img

### Do the same thing, except this time dump the results into a file. $ sha256sum card0001.img >> card0001.img.sha256sum.txt

### Validate the contents of the hash file. Observers can compare against written value. ### If the number above and the number below do not match, something is wrong. $ cat card0001.img.sha256sum.txt 6f4624afb94125a4ca0ac0c3a1cde7b4e9566f5de89f26eb1125d2977b44cf08 card0001.img

### Mount the image file $ sudo mount -o loop card0001.img /mnt

### Check contents of the mounted filesystem $ ls -lR /mnt /mnt: total 6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Dec 5 17:23 config drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Dec 5 17:14 logs drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Dec 5 17:13 votedata

/mnt/config: total 14 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:21 precinct-001.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:21 precinct-002.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:21 precinct-003.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:21 precinct-004.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:21 precinct-005.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73 Dec 5 17:22 precinct.cfg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 494 Dec 5 17:23 precinct.sha256.txt

/mnt/logs: total 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 Dec 5 17:14 logfile.01.txt

/mnt/votedata: total 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 82 Dec 5 17:13 votes.txt

### Get a cryptographic hash of each individual file. Write these down or take screen shot. ### Note, piping the output through sort will make sure all files are displayed in the same ### order each time. $ find /mnt -type f -exec sha256sum {} \; | sort -k2 4511277a6fd1f513ef6448e7b89e554aa155351960501c69f050b77434aac0c5 /mnt/config/precinct-001.cfg 0e940e44a02c22217af9f40eab2f55c1bb763a85baf84f7c78068ab9a95d8e87 /mnt/config/precinct-002.cfg f87612e4c850324a3dd7999d1b48078a154d35319989c304d8681c7b64a0d953 /mnt/config/precinct-003.cfg eb7b5c0bba630a60abba2919543fb4374b0d392f6aa9fd2de0fa6deb93035321 /mnt/config/precinct-004.cfg 5b6eb9e719edb9b53675cec35a19fcc0d68c012e068a47ded4f141cab25b790e /mnt/config/precinct-005.cfg 0e940e44a02c22217af9f40eab2f55c1bb763a85baf84f7c78068ab9a95d8e87 /mnt/config/precinct.cfg b940d2ae1447984dd41285a63b056270ff2f1b5df32525944c7ad95cbfb384a9 /mnt/config/precinct.sha256.txt a9b71823d534f6f7dcb04af1f4975057d4045b27c1e795e828b513790afae881 /mnt/logs/logfile.01.txt acb1018d99ec642ffcc006b2885f9bc5ff0ef70ce4b3f070d3b9ac3c8d1ef9f5 /mnt/votedata/votes.txt

### Get cryptographic hash of each individual file, and store it in a file. $ find /mnt -type f -exec sha256sum {} \; | sort -k2 > card0001.files.sha256sum.txt

### Check contents of file hashes. Make sure the contents of the file matches ### the written hashes or screenshot. $ cat card0001.files.sha256sum.txt 4511277a6fd1f513ef6448e7b89e554aa155351960501c69f050b77434aac0c5 /mnt/config/precinct-001.cfg 0e940e44a02c22217af9f40eab2f55c1bb763a85baf84f7c78068ab9a95d8e87 /mnt/config/precinct-002.cfg f87612e4c850324a3dd7999d1b48078a154d35319989c304d8681c7b64a0d953 /mnt/config/precinct-003.cfg eb7b5c0bba630a60abba2919543fb4374b0d392f6aa9fd2de0fa6deb93035321 /mnt/config/precinct-004.cfg 5b6eb9e719edb9b53675cec35a19fcc0d68c012e068a47ded4f141cab25b790e /mnt/config/precinct-005.cfg 0e940e44a02c22217af9f40eab2f55c1bb763a85baf84f7c78068ab9a95d8e87 /mnt/config/precinct.cfg b940d2ae1447984dd41285a63b056270ff2f1b5df32525944c7ad95cbfb384a9 /mnt/config/precinct.sha256.txt a9b71823d534f6f7dcb04af1f4975057d4045b27c1e795e828b513790afae881 /mnt/logs/logfile.01.txt acb1018d99ec642ffcc006b2885f9bc5ff0ef70ce4b3f070d3b9ac3c8d1ef9f5 /mnt/votedata/votes.txt

### Pro Tip: ### Rather than staring at that huge mass of random characters, pipe the entire ### output through sha256sum so that only one line of output prints. If the two lines ### below are the same, then the data is the same in both raw output and the file. $ find /mnt -type f -exec sha256sum {} \; | sort -k2 | sha256sum 85aee5b269910bcf47bf9096a136e8cc80722142826e40cd99cfea5c1d4e41fa -

$ sha256sum card0001.files.sha256sum.txt 85aee5b269910bcf47bf9096a136e8cc80722142826e40cd99cfea5c1d4e41fa card0001.files.sha256sum.txt

### Unmount the image file

$ sudo umount /mnt

### take a look at the files that now exist in the directory. $ ls -l total 123100 -rw-rw-r-- 1 amp amp 845 Dec 5 19:59 card0001.files.sha256sum.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126041600 Dec 5 19:57 card0001.img -rw-rw-r-- 1 amp amp 79 Dec 5 19:51 card0001.img.sha256sum.txt

See the section below about cryptographic hashes for more detail why the above hashes are so incredibly useful.

Once all of the above is complete on each card, the originals should be sealed until the all of the legal issues have been dealt with. The state can by a new stack of fresh cards/drives or whatever to use in the upcoming election.

Any competent Unix/Linux nerd can validate the above procedure. The disk images can be provided to any person or organization that would like to take a look at them. One of the cool things about using the 'dd' command to image the cards is that it actually provides a byte-for-byte copy of the card itself. There are tools you can use to see deleted files and other information on the card. It does not just copy the files/directories of the file, but is actually an exact image of the card itself.

Anyone can validate after that point that the hashes match. The hash data should be publicly published so that anyone can look at it. In fact, I would strongly argue that the individual images should also be make publicly available. The computer used to generate all of this data can be a completely stand-alone box that has no network connection, and for the truly paranoid, could be installed from validated media immediately before this imaging process is initiated.

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Cryptographic Hashes

A Cryptographic Hash is a strong one-way function that can be used to validate that specified data has not been altered. Wikipedia has a pretty good article about it, that explains it in much better detail than I can. However, the following is an attempt at explaining it in general terms that hopefully is understandable by most folk.

A 'cryptographic hash' is a humnan-readable string of hexidecimal digits. The number of digits is dependant upon the type of hash being used. In the examples below, I'm using a program called 'sha256sum' that will take any data input and reduce it to a 64 character string. This string will be unique for any input. It is theoretically possible for two different files to create the same hash, but the likelyhood of this happening by chance is really astronomical. Picture yourself standing on one of Jupiter's moons, and hitting a golfball that flies across the almost unimaginable distance to Earth, and lands directly in the cup on the first hole of your favorite golf course. It's roughly the same likelihood. One of the cool things about a hash of this type is that it is completely independent of the amount of data that is fed into it. No matter how big the file is, you always get exactly 64 characters as output. It can be easily written down, or otherwise saved, and then used as a comparison at a later date.

Here's a quick example of using a hash to see if a file has been altered...

The following is something that you can do using just about any standard Linux or Unix computer. I am pretty sure the tools also exist for MS-Windows, but I do not believe they are standard tools. In the following, the lines that start with '##' are my comments about what is being done. The lines that start with '$' are the actual commands being executed.

## The following is the original file. It is the Project Gutenberg version of 
## the King James version of the bible.
$ ls -l
total 4844
-rw-r--r-- 1 amp amp 4959549 Nov 28 20:30 The_Bible-KJV.txt

## This is the hash generated via the 'sha256' program. $ sha256sum The_Bible-KJV.txt 6d1c5625cad6b6f619bd8b5cb5e77ea20dcf052082743f27bc8c8be2fb7e8a55 The_Bible-KJV.txt

## Now I make a copy of that file. $ cp The_Bible-KJV.txt The_Bible-KJVa.txt

## I check the hash of both files, and they show as being identical $ sha256sum The_Bible-KJV.txt The_Bible-KJVa.txt 6d1c5625cad6b6f619bd8b5cb5e77ea20dcf052082743f27bc8c8be2fb7e8a55 The_Bible-KJV.txt 6d1c5625cad6b6f619bd8b5cb5e77ea20dcf052082743f27bc8c8be2fb7e8a55 The_Bible-KJVa.txt

## I edit the copy... $ vi The_Bible-KJVa.txt

## The following is a listing of the first 3 lines of each file. ## Note only difference is the first line starts with "T" in the first ## and "t" in the second. $ head -3 The_Bible-KJV.txt *This King James' Bible is the SECOND Project Gutenberg Version* This 10th edition should be labeled biblea10.txt or biblea10.zip ****This edition is being officially released on Easter 1992****

$ head -3 The_Bible-KJVa.txt *this King James' Bible is the SECOND Project Gutenberg Version* This 10th edition should be labeled biblea10.txt or biblea10.zip ****This edition is being officially released on Easter 1992****

## Now, lets check the hash again... $ sha256sum The_Bible-KJV.txt The_Bible-KJVa.txt 6d1c5625cad6b6f619bd8b5cb5e77ea20dcf052082743f27bc8c8be2fb7e8a55 The_Bible-KJV.txt 2cedfa1ddd401af877a03c9f9e84f675c89f86a3474372b2e45b0e777dd88c21 The_Bible-KJVa.txt

## Note that even the tiniest of changes to the file generates a completely different hash. ## You'll also note below that the two files are still exactly the same size, yet ## produce much different output even if that difference is only a single character. $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 amp amp 4959545 Nov 28 20:44 The_Bible-KJVa.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 amp amp 4959545 Nov 28 20:42 The_Bible-KJV.txt

None of the above is rocket science to anyone who knows anything about security. Not only can you generate a hash for each individual file on the card, but after doing so and saving the resulting list of hashes, you can hash that resulting file as well, so that if any individual file is changed that overall has will fail as well. You can print, save, email and otherwise disseminate these hashes so everyone involved will have confidence in the data.

I'd also note, that if I were setting up something to assist with validating election results, not only would you have strong cryptographic hashes of all data, but the files on the computer as well, such that any change made would be readily apparent. I'd also implement digital signatures using strong cryptographic functions like those available with the PGP or GPG encryption programs, but that is a much longer discussion for another day.

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Bonus!
Nully's modest proposal to end voter and election fraud:

• Paper ballots with human readable marks. They may be computer generated, and/or computer counted, but there must be an audit trail of each vote. H/T zeugma
• All systems using computerized counting must have open source software, two fully separate and independent companies provide redundant, crowd source vetted, software. Counting is done on two separate systems and cross-checked.
• Manual counting and loading paper ballots into counting machines must be live streamed from multiple cameras, with interlocking fields of view, on independent connections.
• Purple fingers (needs something to prevent an absentee voter/early voter from re-voting at the poll, maybe blockchain, also maybe a mugshot showing the voter an the photo ID taken at sign in?) H/T for-q-clinton
• Mandatory free on demand BIOMETRIC (iris scan, nobody ever left their irises at a crime scene!) photo voter ID card, with a database that instantly flags for arrest anyone seeking multiple IDs. Change of name or address? Simply have your old card voided when you apply for the new one.
• No precinct reports their totals until ALL precincts report they have totals. This prevents the last-to-report precinct captains from knowing how much to fudge a report to give a win to their preferred candidate while maintaining some slight semblance of credibility.
• Repeal Motor Voter.
• End same-day registration where it exists, and allow ample time between registration and election for vetting of credentials of registrants.
• Instantly deport any non-citizen who registers to vote. Permanently ban from re-entry any non-citizen who actually votes.
• Put a little ⩍ next to the names of those registered voters with death certificates, and detain and put a 72 hour psychiatric hold on anyone claiming to be a dead person...
• With the exception of absentee ballots, end early voting. Every voter deserves and has a responsibility to know the latest information before they cast their ballots. H/T WildHighlander57
• Absentee ballots must be vetted and counted 10 days before the polling date, with the results secured until the date of the vote. H/T octex
• All voter rolls are automatically and completely purged ten days after the Presidential Inauguration. Reregistering to vote every four years is not an imposition. H/T The Chid
• Mexico has voter ID cards required to vote, and when you vote, they punch a hole in your card to prevent multiple votes in the same election.
  I don't know if you get a 10% discount after you've accumulated enough punched holes…

Of course, all this would only apply to Federal elections, for federal offices, as that is the legitimate concern of the federal government.

Let the states who have local authority use whatever system they wish to force the elections of their favorite sons and daughters to alderman, mayor or goobernor. They can do it the cheap way, by just following the federal rules for all voting, or they can have separate ballots for local and federal. Their call. It's a free country, ain't it?

[zeugma]

Offering this for discussion. Any comments about how this could be improved would be appreciated.

For some reason, the formatting of the command line stuff doesn't seem to work correctly on FR. I'm thinking that it's related to some of the parsing that the site does when you submit articles and stuff. At least, it doesn't look like it when I 'preview'. If it looks weired, click the source link. (My site is completely unmonitized, so it's not like it makes much difference.)

[zeugma]

I’d appreciate any comments.

[Truthoverpower]

We don’t need any of that crap

Paper ballots.

In person With ID

Run by military personnel

BALLOTS DONT LEAVE

BALLOTS COUNTED BY BIPARTISAN COUNTERS

[Fester Chugabrew]

Great to see how much thought you’ve put into this. We are only about 4 decades too late in reigning in the fraud. Shame on us. It may be too late. The sound byte age is devoid of logic most of the time.

But I would not discourage you in the least. How patriots are able to coalesce and reign in the abuse is above my pay grade, but I will not stand for fraud of any kind whether individually or coporately.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

- Nullify the Presidential election

- Abolish same-day registration

- Abolish ballot harvesting

- Abolish motor-voter laws

- Abolish early voting

- Prohibits the media from calling the election

- 20-year federal prison term for ANY vote fraud

- Set the new special presidential election for 11/02/2021; inauguration for 01/20/2022

- Winner gets a single 7-year term, bypasses the 2024 presidential election for stability purposes, presidential elections resumes in 2028

[asinclair]

Each election board shall submit a listing of all Social Security Numbers registered in a precinct or voting region to a Federal Election Registry. Said Registry would save the last precinct or voting region reported for the SSN to a database. Just before an election, each election board will receive a complete list of valid SSNs for the precinct.

The Social Security Administration would provide Death Notices to the Election Registry. Any attempt to record a precinct or voting region for such a reported SSN would be rejected. The voter would be required to work with the SSA and the election board in the event a death notice is entered in error.

[brianr10]

I liketh isea of purging the rolls every 4 year, and re registering. Like for your car. I would also raise the voting age back to 21 or 25, or 30.

[Striperman]

Desantis in Florida did a good job cleaning up the voter rolls and getting rid of cheating election officials, Trump won by 2-3 percent higher than last time.

[Striperman]

Desantis in Florida did a good job cleaning up the voter rolls and getting rid of cheating election officials, Trump won by 2-3 percent higher than last time.

[zeugma]

We don’t need any of that crap

I disagree with that sentiment. We need something to regain confidence that our elections are not fraudulent

I think you'd have some issues with having elections run by military personnel. That's something that I wouldn't mind personally, but it might have visuals more reminiscent of your garden variety banana republic.

BALLOTS COUNTED BY BIPARTISAN COUNTERS

I'm not sure where you'd find these mythical 'bipartisan counters'. I suspect they ride unicorns in their spare time.

[zeugma]

I like both of your ideas regardings SSNs. We really need a way to validate rolls. Biggest problem with using SSNs is that the SSN database is a mess, because the government doesn't give a damn about it.

[kvanbrunt2]

Make it a felony to divulge any preliminary counting of votes. No feeds from any system to AP or Edison. If they don’t know how many votes to manufacture they can’t win. Also you eliminate third party voter data sharing with the Soros commies. And no tv clown show on election night. Just cameras everywhere watching every move these suckers make.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

We should adopt Mexico’s immigration and election policies.

Seriously.

[Secret Agent Man]

yeah, some of what you mention would be helpful.

every state however needs to have legislators make the changes

the constitution allows each state to determine how they handle their elections

thats where the changes must come from

[cheezburger]

How does this prevent democrats from stuffing the ballot box with votes for those on the rolls that never/rarely show up to vote?
How does this prevent judges from tossing the system out (because of course it’s ‘racist’)?

If you noticed on 11/3 in every state processes, rules, laws were ignored, changed by judges, election boards, with no consequences at all.

I still think the best remedy is for Republicans to stuff the ballot boxes with such a ridiculous number of votes in the GA runoff (say 100million or so) that it can’t be ignored. Since rules don’t count the 2024 election may be decided by who gets to 1 billion votes first.

[The MAGA-Deplorian]

SD cards? Yeah nothing like something 3 times smaller than the USB’s that were all swiped.

Heres your solution
1 paper ballots encrypted with the polling precinct
2 you only get one with a valid photo id. If your black and cant be photographed, you are a vampire and should be killed immediately!
3. Signature on the ballot and thumb print on the ballot (with ink that can only wear off, not chemically removable) before voting.
4. Only military counts the ballots in full view of 2 Republicans and 2 Democraps. Questionable ballots will be separated and examined by forensic military personnel, also in view of a republican and democrap ballots observer. If final determination can not be reached, ballot is spoiled and thrown out, and voter will be notified with photo copy of unreadable ballot.
5. Counting facilities are sealed by the military until vote is completed. No surprise ballots in or out. Any attempts are met by military force and confiscation
6. Spoiled ballots and harvesting are illegal.
7. All personnel counting ballots will be on camera individually, and the count will be streamed live until competed.
8. Military officers will present findings to state legislators ONLY.

[Revel]

No computerized equipment at all involved in voting.

No removable media of any kind on tabulators. Analog or Roms only, and someway to confirm that they have not been tampered with. Digital display shows vote counts on tabulator. Numbers are transcribed onto paper by hand.

[HotHunt]

Why limit mail-in ballots to just military?

My wife and I began voting absentee ballots when we were in the military but continued after we retired as well. We live in a farm in rural area and the nearest polling station is almost 25 miles away. We are now in our mid-70s with physical problems that prevent us from standing in line at a polling station for very long.

Limiting absentee ballots for just the military would disenfranchise many older Americans who can't physically stand or wait in line at the polling places or even get to the polling place. Or the infirm and homebound folks. That's not fair to them.

Mail-in absentee ballots are not a risk if they have to be requested and are processed properly.

The problem with mail-in ballots is not ballot itself. It's the democRAT states than mass mailed ballots to everyone they could find in the universe and then some. And didn't process them properly. They sent multiple ballots to some people and to people who hadn't requested ballots and to dead people and to people not registered to vote, etc.

So I disagree that absentee mail-in ballots should be limited to just the military. You just assume everybody else can just "show up", which is not the case.

[WildHighlander57]

Add to the list:

All absentee ballots must be received by 7pm on election day; no exceptions.

Each precinct keeps the vote totals locally.

Have the vote totals nationwide held till 9am the day after election day.

Then add everything up and release the results all at once.

[Revel]

And here is a really big one. HD Cameras recording every move in the entire process Including voters entering and exiting. Each voter can be matched to the image on camera. The only exception is that they are set up in way as to not reveal a voters actual votes. Every step of tabulation recorded with HD camera. HD photo quality capture of every ballot as it goes through the tabulator.

All Video/photos made available to public immediately after election. Along with totals from paper only poll books. And all vote counts and times reported.