It’s time to create the National Institutes of Energy Innovation

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Energy/How-the-US-can-lead-on-climate-change-innovation ^ | 12/5/2020 | Bill Gates

[algore]

There’s another global disaster we also need to try to prevent: climate change.

We have only some of the tools we need to eliminate the world’s greenhouse gases.

We need breakthroughs in the way we generate and store clean electricity, grow food, make things, move around, and heat and cool our buildings, so we can do all these things without adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. We need to revolutionize the world’s physical economy—and that will take, among other things, a dramatic infusion of ingenuity, funding, and focus from the federal government. No one else has the resources to drive the research we need.

[waterhill]

So are you for or against the grinding of minerals? Turning them into sexy ass hydrocarbons?

Because that is what this earth does...and it will never go away...for a long ass time...

Abiogenic.

You can go pleasure yourself with your dinoplant oil.

[freedomlver]

What greenhouse gases is he referring to? water vapor? It will fall as rain. CO2? It will be absorbed by pants, oceans and rocks.

Lets be honest though. The last 10,000 years we have had one of the most stable climates in earths recent history.. Go back before that and you’ll see huge swings in the climate. Like 15 degree F swings.
The earth can never have a runaway greenhouse effect like Venus. Totally different atmosphere. Standing on the ground on venus is like diving 720 feet below the surface of the ocean. Yea the atmosphere is dense there.
The earth has had much higher CO2 levels in the past. Plants actually thrive around 1200-1400 PPM co2.

If Governments were really so worried about climate change then why not regulate the big corps into lowering emissions? How about the military, one of the largest polluters on the planet?
Just another scam to suck dollars out of everyones wallets.

[waterhill]

Governments lose sleep over climate change? Why? Control.

[waterhill]

Can you throw some steampunk my way? I don’t have any.

[Nifster]

Pound sand. We don’t need more govt

[Glad2bnuts]

Life on Earth as we know it today, with plants using CO2 and releasing Oxygen for the animals almost was not coming back. During the last Ice Age, CO2 levels were near levels where plants could not grow. We are still coming out of that near extinction event. Then again, CO2 has been as high as 10-14K PPM and the temperatures were not extremely high. We are passengers on this planet, the climate will do what it does no matter what Humans do.

The spraying of high altitude aerosols are the cause of most the rise in temperature. They trap heat in during the night so the temp does not fall to levels of previous decades.

Now I am not saying that humans are causing changes on purpose, but somehow they think that reflecting light back into space will make the planet cooler. These people and pseudo scientists are tinkering with essential forces, and spending large dollars to do this.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

>Abiogenic

It’s not coming up fast enough.

And we are using about a million years worth of coal every year.

[familyop]

Sure!

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[familyop]

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[HotHunt]

When the Left argues about climate change it is not really the issue.

The issue is always about their wet dream of a socialist revolution.

Don't waste your time arguing with hippies about global warming or climate change or whatever they call it nowadays.

It is a ruse or a red herring to destroy capitalism and free enterprise by eliminating fossil fuels which drives the economy.

Arguing with the Left about Covid-19 is very similar. It is all BS and is their version of population control and tyranny.

[nathanbedford]

There’s no central office that’s responsible for evaluating and nurturing great ideas.

We do in fact have that central office as evidenced in the last election, it's called Google, Facebook, Twitter. How did that turn out?

Before this brave new technological age we had an "office" called the free market where everybody gets a vote. We had a thing called elections, where people as well as interests are represented. We had a thing called a working Congress that "evaluated" and "nurtured" ideas great and not so great.

Above all we had several "offices" but, thank God, we had no "central" office.

Bill Gates wants to build a tower of Babel. His arrogance does not appear of the kind that we normally associate with that word but the level of his arrogance is breathtaking and extends to the heavens.

[minnesota_bound]

Bill Gates can move into a much much smaller home and sell all his other properties.
One home is 66,000 square feet made from half a million wood logs. Wiped out a forest for his home.
https://tinyurl.com/y6hfrs9z

[nathanbedford]

The federal government is $25 TRILLION in debt. We do not have the resources,

You are so right! We are broke and, worse, we don't know it!

Beyond the $25 trillion in scheduled debt there are unfunded liabilities north of $200 trillion. No economy can forever carry these burdens without a reckoning, a crash, a deflationary spiral, an inflationary spiral, stagflation. Take your pick.

I understand why Bill Gates with his billions does not believe we live in an economy of scarcity but it is not so obvious why we as a society do not know that we are broke or that we must operate with regard to scarcity.

We live in an age in which we borrow at will without apparent consequences. Normally borrowing would lead to inflation but because the United States is the world's premier military power, the world's reserve currency, the beneficiary of cheap goods coming out of China and the Third World, oil exporter, able to import dirt cheap labor across the Rio Grande, we have managed to postpone the inevitable inflation and keep the music playing.

Therefore, there are no apparent consequences to borrowing. If there are no downside risks to borrowing, we can live the high life until the music stops playing.

So when Bill Gates wants to divert tax dollars to one of his wonderful schemes, whether to build toilets in Africa or defeat global warming, he moves dollars around the table, or I should say around the globe, with the stroke of a keyboard and without observable consequences and no understanding.

In this artificial world the free market cannot work, it cannot allocate resources that are precious because they are scarce because we don't know they are scarce. When we want more, we simply borrow more.

Those who oppose these kinds of projects as "job creators " as Bill Gates is trying to do here are mindful of Milton Friedman's famous reference to the shopkeeper's broken window hypothetical in which the cost to repair a vandalized window was said to ripple through the economy enriching everyone from glass manufacturers to carpenters etc. But the conservative points out that the money used to replace the broken window was money that the shopkeeper does not now have to enlarge his business and perhaps hire new employees, causing his own ripple effect.

The argument is that when the government takes money out of the economy, even to pursue noble leftist dreams, it is taking money that the marketplace knows better where to invest for greater return.

The law of unintended consequences done by our own hands as invisible opportunity cost.

Gates is making an old-fashioned elitist argument that I first encountered when in college and assigned to write a review of The Affluent Society. The book animated the Kennedy administration and the Democrat party around 1962 saying that, because we put Chrome on cars rather than build hospitals we don't know how to allocate our money and therefore we should be taxed by a government that knows better how to spend our money.

It is easy for Bill Gates who found a way to amass billions of dollars to believe that he is smarter than everyone else. It may be true that he is smarter than any other individual but the problem is he is not smarter than the mass of consumers, investors, entrepreneurs. His trust in elites is a denial of democracy, a denial of the wisdom of the free market, and an Old Testament chance to play God.

[HKMk23]

If we’re going to ever hope to accomplish anything at all, we have to get right to the root of this whole matter, and go on full-on Attack Mode stopping the spread of s*** heads.

Every present threat on planet Earth can be traced directly back to s*** heads. If there is a crisis, behind it someplace there’s a s*** head; either making it worse, our creating it from whole cloth.

Obviously, there are some crises we simply will not be able to avoid. However, every crisis can be reduced in magnitude by the eradication of s*** heads, and some crises can be eliminated altogether, because apart from the existence of s*** heads, they simply do not exist.

So, let us begin here: Bill Gates is a s*** head.

[PIF]

We want to ELIMINATE the world’s greenhouse gases???

If we did that, what would plants convert to oxygen for us to breathe? Or do we want to eliminate oxygen too?

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Only the rich can afford oxygen

[PIF]

We do not need little socialist technocratic dictators to eliminate the world’s greenhouse gases.

We are going to run out sometime this century anyway.
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Agreed; we do not need uber-wealthy, nurdy thieves who love playing dictator and tyrant-in-chief to tell us anything.

We are never going to run out of “greenhouse” gases, unless you plan to strip the Earth of its atmosphere.

You do know that the water vapor (clouds, steam) is the largest “greenhouse” gas and that oxygen is another? You do know that without CO2 all plants (which make oxygen) would die and all other oxygen breathing life die shortly there after?

[PIF]

Standing on the ground on venus is like diving 720 feet below the surface of the ocean.

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You mean 3,000 feet or 1350 psi

[PIF]

During the last Ice Age, CO2 levels were near levels where plants could not grow

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Drama! No it was not anything like that - there were lush forests all over the world in the temperate and tropical zones of the time. Plants require 150ppm, but during the last glaciation it was about 180-200ppm - fine for plant growth. Now we are approaching 400ppm up from 280ppm in the 1800s

“The spraying of high altitude aerosols” ah yes “chemtrails” of course, right, and so forth

“but somehow they think that reflecting light back into space will make the planet cooler.”

That’s actually partially true - light=heat. All cities are environmentally deserts radiating light and heat back into the Atmosphere, not space. But has no effect on overall planetary temperature, just on various authorities quotient of hubris.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

>We are never going to run out of “greenhouse” gases, unless you plan to strip the Earth of its atmosphere.

Obviously, I meant the ability to make more. Sheesh.

[Paulie]

Thorium energy.