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No evidence coronavirus has mutated to become more infectious
New Atlas ^ | 11/25/2020 | Rich Haridy

Posted on 12/01/2020 4:44:32 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

A large new study, led by a team of geneticists from University College London and published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature Communications, has investigated over 10,000 mutations to the SARS-CoV-2 virus and concluded there currently does not appear to be any variant that is more infectious or transmissible.

Those closely following COVID-19 news cycles are probably familiar with the near-constant parade of headlines that have been published since the beginning of the year proclaiming the virus has mutated and we now have strains that are more infectious, or more deadly. However, as vaccine charity GAVI explains, viruses are mutating all the time, and the vast majority of mutations mean absolutely nothing in regards to how deadly or infectious a virus may be...

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid; mutation; vaccine; virus
Evolution is a lie. It is a theory based on the faulty premise of “beneficial mutations”, an event not seen in nature. All mutations are non-beneficial. Mutations may add an extra finger, or second set of teeth, but they never give new attributes or capabilities like gills on a human, or webbed hands and feet for swimming. Mutations also weaken, not strengthen the host.

Virus mutations are the same.

1 posted on 12/01/2020 4:44:32 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

World’s worst pandemic. Two dozen more random friends of mine this week have the death virus. How do they know? They were “tested” for the New Spanish Flu. They showed no symptoms.


2 posted on 12/01/2020 4:56:02 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Coranal virus is going to be the least of the Marxists worries....

"The oldest stories ever told are written in the stars. Stories of time before man and gods, when Titans ruled the earth. The Titans were powerful but their reign was ended by their own sons: Zeus, Poseiden, and Hades. Zeus convinced his brother Hades to create a beast so strong it could defeat their parents. And from his own flesh Hades gave birth to an unspeakable horror... the KRAKEN."


3 posted on 12/01/2020 4:56:11 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
No evidence coronavirus has mutated to become more infectious

15 million dead mink in Denmark say otherwise...

4 posted on 12/01/2020 5:07:20 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

When they say “no evidence” I become very suspicious.


5 posted on 12/01/2020 5:13:28 PM PST by libertylover (Remember: Deep State hated Jesus too.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Lockdown mutations have grown and gotten worse.


6 posted on 12/01/2020 5:18:29 PM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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“However, as vaccine charity GAVI explains, viruses are mutating all the time”

Yup, kind of like the climate, which has ALWAYS and will ALWAYS be changing!

As to virus mutations, my understanding is that they are usually in the direction of becoming more contagious but less lethal.


7 posted on 12/01/2020 5:20:56 PM PST by mtrott
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Fauci, Gates, and his chinese lab buddies haven’t launched out version 2 yet.


8 posted on 12/01/2020 5:28:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

What about becoming LESS contagious and causing you to be LESS ill?


9 posted on 12/01/2020 6:08:46 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They shelved V2 Plans when Biden magically “won” the election.


10 posted on 12/01/2020 6:09:45 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Not yet

They had thought it would be uncontested

They continually dont get Trump

Its rewdy to go if he overturns this by all the evidence


11 posted on 12/01/2020 6:12:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Yep, they've got their finger on the button...


12 posted on 12/01/2020 6:16:02 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: mtrott
As to virus mutations, my understanding is that they are usually in the direction of becoming more contagious but less lethal.

1) "Usually" the mutations are insignificant. However, you are correct that of the small percentage of mutations that are significant mutations affecting contagiousness and lethality, most are in the direction of more contagious but less lethal. A much smaller number will be more lethal. Generally, for a variety of reasons that don't even involve, say, viability of the virus with time outside the host, greater lethality promotes LESS spread of a pathogen, not greater spread.

That said, given enough chances, more lethal strains do pop up from time to time, because there are so many chances for a mutation to occur: A contagious person can output 200 million virions in a single sneeze. An infected person themselves can carry 10^9 to 10^11 virions. That is a lot of chances for mutation!

My own guess is that usually mild diseases may have a sort of genetic momentum that keeps them mild but successful, success being very effective spread.

2) Notice what just popped out above, though. Of "significant mutations affecting contagiousness and lethality, most are in the direction of more contagious but less lethal." This is very well known, studied, and documented. But from the pathogen's point of view, that IS success. So, the idea that no mutations are beneficial to any mutated organisms is complete hogwash.

13 posted on 12/01/2020 7:16:07 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: mac_truck

15 MILLION cull mink? Wouldn’t you say that was an over reaction based on hysteria? Maybe profit if the farmers expect to get a return from their losses


14 posted on 12/01/2020 7:45:51 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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No, its not an over reaction to a infectious mutation, and the Danes are not prone to hysteria. The financial losses to Danish mink farmers are a drop in the bucket compared with the global economic calamity a mutated covid virus would cause.


15 posted on 12/01/2020 11:09:44 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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A bunch of mink in Oregon got infected too.

As with regard to harmful mutations, if it was initially a “bat virus” that can infect humans, and mutated to become a “mink virus” - yes the original bat virus got degraded. (It can no longer survive in bats - so sad.)

However - this changed virus can survive in mink, which may be one more step in infecting people more easily and/or with a worse illness. Or not!


16 posted on 12/01/2020 11:41:22 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: mac_truck

Is the death rate in Minks higher then humans if so why?
If not why cull them?


17 posted on 12/01/2020 11:46:18 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Is the death rate in Minks higher then humans if so why?

The death rate among mink really isn't the issue, its the ability of the virus to find another host, mutate, and continue to infect humans.

You're looking at endless restrictions if this thing can't be eradicated, especially if another strain emerges that the current vaccines don't work against.

18 posted on 12/02/2020 7:00:47 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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You're looking at endless restrictions if this thing can't be eradicated, especially if another strain emerges that the current vaccines don't work against.
Given that multiple vaccines are targeted a different aspect of Covid, it would seem that at least one vaccine would be helpful against a given mutation. No?

19 posted on 12/02/2020 11:34:53 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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