Posted on 11/25/2020 10:00:43 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
... it appears that the only time people can infect others is when they have the virus for the first time, and only when they are symptomatic. Lock downs and the use of masks by the healthy accomplish nothing. All you need to do is quarantine the symptomatic patient, as human societies have been doing for centuries and centuries. ... wearing masks if you are healthy and not sick protects no one. Social distancing if you are not sick protects no one. Shutting down businesses, such as reducing capacities at restaurants so they can’t make a profit, protects no one. Curfews protect no one.
When you see someone on a hiking trail, it is not necessary to run ten feet off the trail, put a mask on, and bow your head away in fear and terror of that other person. That they are on the trail guarantees they are not sick. They can’t infect you. And that you are there also means you can’t infect them.
Burn the mask. Smile. Live like a human again. And most of all, stop being afraid all the time.
The conclusions then go on to spout the required politically correct blather about the need for widespread use of masks and social distancing, even though its own results showed that such measures are only useful in the presence of obviously sick individuals.
...Unfortunately, I fully expect an effort by many readers to reject these results, digging desperately for any tidbit that might be used to discredit it wholly. Being skeptical is of course absolutely proper, but today too many people aren’t skeptical, they are downright hostile to the arrival of good news. They are in love with their fear of COVID-19, and will oppose and reject any data that might mean their fear is mistaken.
(Excerpt) Read more at behindtheblack.com ...
A lengthy PDF that makes my brain hurt. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
Great find! Will read in detail later.
Uh huh. Some one needs to tell my patients who keep getting infected by people before they become symptomatic.
I feel such contempt for cowards. And I say that as someone who is elderly and has a couple of comorbidities—I had covid, it was no fun, but it has a 99.94% survival rate. Pull yourselves together you miserable cringing faithless whining cowards.
Clearly there has been a rush to judgment and a rush to manufacture (and profit from) vaccines.
Driven by massive political force from many directions.
Some days it feels like I’m trapped inside the old logic puzzle with the two groups, one lies and the other always tells the truth...
Seven relatives, all direct hospital employees or immediate family, except my brother who was an inpatient just after brain tumor surgery.
Three of them went to ICU.
Two came out OK, my brother did not survive.
I have not heard it stated better. Anywhere, anytime.
Agree x 100.
I disagree with these Findings. I don’t see my husband during the week. He came down sick on a Thursday, got tested the next Wednesday, I even drove him to urgent care for the test. I never caught the virus. I think it’s due to the fact that I was not around him in the days before symptoms and the couple days after they started. This would coincide with what i read last week about when the most infectious time of this virus is. Now that’s only one example yes but I wanted to share.
Yeah. That ain’t happening. They’ve been exposed they just don’t know who wasn’t smart enough to stay home
And there are a lot of qualifiers in just that small excerpt of that academic study, such as "may be," "were more likely to," "might," "were unlikely to," "they may tend to," etc.
Very roughly speaking, younger people don't need to be overly cautious. But if you're talking about an elderly person or someone with one or more specific preexisting conditions, then it's better to play it safe and not totally rely on all those "may be's" and "more likely to's," while also factoring in the consideration that you want those people to still enjoy life, too. In that case, there are no easy answers.
Facts don’t matter, and haven’t for quite some time.
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