Posted on 11/20/2020 5:48:23 PM PST by tired&retired
The new vaccines that are going to save millions of lives should be called the Trump Vaccine after our hero who accelerated its development.
Probably should make sure it works first!
ML/NJ
If it doesn’t, we call it the Cuomo Vaccine.
I would not want my name on any of these vaccines. They really are not proven to be safe yet. We have never had a safe and effective RNA vaccine ever.
Name it “Covfefeum”.
fdawuhan
Phase I, II, and III Trials have demonstrated its efficacy in the same way every other vaccine has been vetted. So you really are no better than any of the liberals or democrats. You sure you are on the right forum?
ML/NJ
I don’t think Trump would want his name associated with these vaccines.
From the article “Everything You Don’t Want To Know About COVID Vaccines” (link at bottom):
“Moderna’s messenger RNA vaccine, on the other hand, is completely new and revolutionary to say the least. It uses a sequence of genetic RNA material produced in a lab that, when injected into your body, must invade your cells and hijack your cells’ protein-making machinery called ribosomes to produce the viral components that subsequently train your immune system to fight the virus. In this case, Moderna’s mRNA-1273 is programmed to make your cells produce the coronavirus’ infamous spike protein that gives the virus its crown-like appearance (’corona’ is crown in Latin) for which it is named.”
But these are the first mRNA vaccines ever seeking approval for human use, and so there are no long-term studies of what might go wrong down the road.
One concern is the possibility that mRNA vaccines could trigger a generalized immune response (interferon, etc.) rather than just a specific immune response to a specific virus (antibodies, etc.).
Our immune system is extremely complex and I make no claim to have a complete understanding of it. That said, the immune system has several levels of response. A conventional vaccine triggers the production of a specific antibody that “recognizes” a specific invader. In other cases, the immune system can activate an “all hands on deck” generalized response.
The danger is that the mRNA could trigger an “all hands on deck” response that could then cascade into autoimmune disorders in which the immune system goes haywire and starts attacking the body’s own cells rather than limiting its destructive capabilities to foreign viruses, bacteria, etc.
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mRNA vaccines by the very nature of their components elicit an interferon response that triggers generalized autoimmunity. This may, in fact, be part of the mechanism of longer term morbidity associated with COVID infection.
Mass introduction of mRNA strands into the populations may indeed reduce acute COVID morbidity and mortality, but how many autoimmune complications will result?
No one knows.
It’s never been done before—ever.
It would take years of carefully controlled and limited trials across all ethnic groups to find out.
Is the net good from a vaccine that fewer people die up front but a whole lot more folks suffer long term problems on the back end—especially (as seems likely) boosters will be required.
Shouldn’t there be a discussion before ‘immunity passports’ are mandated?
For that matter, shouldn’t we discover how long natural immunity lasts before trying to provoke induced immunity?
I’m dumbstruck that, with the proposed approval timetable, this path is even being considered at a population level, let alone considered without an extensive discussion.
First do no harm.”
Link:
Everything You Don’t Want To Know About COVID Vaccines
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/everything-you-dont-want-know-about-covid-vaccines-because-you-cant-be-bullish-anymore
We’d be better off with a vaccine for liberalism.
It has been verified. It gets a little tired of Freepers continually promoting a line of bullsh*t that Camel toe Harris and libtards agree with.
It is as detrimental to our side as anything else, but the fact that it comes from within makes it worse. With friends like this, who needs enemies? At the end of the day it is ignorance on full display. This is the exact process that would be used by any other novel therapy, but how far we have fallen. The Manhattan project was celebrated for American ingenuity and know how and dedication. This is the Manhattan project of vaccine.
Thank God you were not around in 1944 carping at Oppenheimer. If we followed your advice, we would be speaking either Japanese or German.
Multiple Phase 1, 2, and 3 trials would disagree with you. Scientific inquiry and progress would disagree with you. Careful the next time you go on a boat that you don’t fall off the edge of the earth.
Nothwistanding the pearl clutching and utter nonsense that you have proffered here regarding interferons and the spike protein, if you wish not to be educated that is your prerogative. You dont want the vaccine — fine. But you and your ilk agree more with Rachel Maddow and Kamala Harris than our President and our side
If you dont believe in American greatness and ingenuity ,please feel free to go hang out on the DU. You will feel more comfortable there.
Hahahahahah...love it!!!!
Let’s see how it works first. And if it starts killing people.
You posted an excellent piece there.
Mind if I share it?
The link is at the bottom so share away.
Those trials haven’t been out very long. You take the damn vaccine and hope you live long enough to get on the boat ya smart ass.
I don’t know who you are or who you think you are. But I tell ya what.
If you don’t have a vaccine-injured child in your life then keep your rudeness to yourself.
You don’t know everything. Or are you God?
You are as bad as the leftists who are only allowed to march in lock step and none dare think outside approved thoughts.
Go away.
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