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1 posted on 11/20/2020 5:48:23 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Probably should make sure it works first!

ML/NJ


2 posted on 11/20/2020 5:49:35 PM PST by ml/nj
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I would not want my name on any of these vaccines. They really are not proven to be safe yet. We have never had a safe and effective RNA vaccine ever.


4 posted on 11/20/2020 5:51:06 PM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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fdawuhan


6 posted on 11/20/2020 5:56:04 PM PST by conservative_cyclist (Trump Fan from Day 1, keep America Safe)
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Trump Vaccine?

Sounds like a vaccine to cure a disease named Trump, sort of like the flu vaccine.

Liberals would love that name.
7 posted on 11/20/2020 6:05:03 PM PST by adorno
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I don’t think Trump would want his name associated with these vaccines.

From the article “Everything You Don’t Want To Know About COVID Vaccines” (link at bottom):

“Moderna’s messenger RNA vaccine, on the other hand, is completely new and revolutionary to say the least. It uses a sequence of genetic RNA material produced in a lab that, when injected into your body, must invade your cells and hijack your cells’ protein-making machinery called ribosomes to produce the viral components that subsequently train your immune system to fight the virus. In this case, Moderna’s mRNA-1273 is programmed to make your cells produce the coronavirus’ infamous spike protein that gives the virus its crown-like appearance (’corona’ is crown in Latin) for which it is named.”

But these are the first mRNA vaccines ever seeking approval for human use, and so there are no long-term studies of what might go wrong down the road.

One concern is the possibility that mRNA vaccines could trigger a generalized immune response (interferon, etc.) rather than just a specific immune response to a specific virus (antibodies, etc.).

Our immune system is extremely complex and I make no claim to have a complete understanding of it. That said, the immune system has several levels of response. A conventional vaccine triggers the production of a specific antibody that “recognizes” a specific invader. In other cases, the immune system can activate an “all hands on deck” generalized response.

The danger is that the mRNA could trigger an “all hands on deck” response that could then cascade into autoimmune disorders in which the immune system goes haywire and starts attacking the body’s own cells rather than limiting its destructive capabilities to foreign viruses, bacteria, etc.

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mRNA vaccines by the very nature of their components elicit an interferon response that triggers generalized autoimmunity. This may, in fact, be part of the mechanism of longer term morbidity associated with COVID infection.

Mass introduction of mRNA strands into the populations may indeed reduce acute COVID morbidity and mortality, but how many autoimmune complications will result?

No one knows.

It’s never been done before—ever.

It would take years of carefully controlled and limited trials across all ethnic groups to find out.

Is the net good from a vaccine that fewer people die up front but a whole lot more folks suffer long term problems on the back end—especially (as seems likely) boosters will be required.

Shouldn’t there be a discussion before ‘immunity passports’ are mandated?

For that matter, shouldn’t we discover how long natural immunity lasts before trying to provoke induced immunity?

I’m dumbstruck that, with the proposed approval timetable, this path is even being considered at a population level, let alone considered without an extensive discussion.

First do no harm.”

Link:
Everything You Don’t Want To Know About COVID Vaccines
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/everything-you-dont-want-know-about-covid-vaccines-because-you-cant-be-bullish-anymore


10 posted on 11/20/2020 6:16:51 PM PST by Qiviut (Fox "News": Unfair, Unbalanced & Unhinged. #Foxit)
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We’d be better off with a vaccine for liberalism.


11 posted on 11/20/2020 6:19:34 PM PST by Track9 (English language instruction in china is sponsored by the CCP to facilitate espionage. )
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Let’s see how it works first. And if it starts killing people.


16 posted on 11/20/2020 6:37:54 PM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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placebo/chip/billgatessoulsnatcher


21 posted on 11/20/2020 6:49:33 PM PST by TBall
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Call it “If you don’t take this you only have a 98.7% chance of surviving” vaccine. No thanks.


25 posted on 11/20/2020 7:35:48 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (It is the Trump way! It is the only way!)
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The vaccine is probably going to be either dangerous or useless.

In the end the Democrats will want it named Trump’s vaccine.

We should have gone with herd immunity.


26 posted on 11/20/2020 8:52:48 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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If it’s named the Trump vaccine, it will be banned in America.


27 posted on 11/20/2020 9:20:52 PM PST by Mr Information
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To: tired&retired; All
Not a good idea. The name of the vaccine is typically associated with the disease.

Ever heard of Polio vaccine? How about Small Pox vaccine?

Common sense isn’t common anymore.

29 posted on 11/20/2020 11:28:13 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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I call it TROUBLE.

NBT — Nothing But Trouble.


32 posted on 11/20/2020 11:46:37 PM PST by .30Carbine
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Mag-agra.


44 posted on 11/21/2020 3:02:37 PM PST by llevrok (Lassie eats chickens.)
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