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To: rickmichaels

Private business requires employee to wear a “uniform”. Employee refuses. Employee terminated. No different from a Ford dealer requiring mechanics to wear work clothes with a “Ford” emblem, or a bank requiring men to wear suits with ties.

Employer chooses what uniforms an employee wears on the job. Employee choses whether he/she wants to wear the uniform or quit. Freedom for both.


4 posted on 11/20/2020 7:35:05 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Soul of the South
Employer chooses what uniforms an employee wears on the job.

Imagine a coffee shop where the uniform says "No N****** allowed". You know, just as a joke. 'Cause it's so funny, and stuff. Think a court would like that uniform?

13 posted on 11/20/2020 7:38:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Soul of the South

Private business requires employee to wear a “uniform”. Employee refuses. Employee terminated.


The uniform contains a message that is not directly related to the business function. It is a political message.

That’s a lot different than, “just a uniform”.


14 posted on 11/20/2020 7:38:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Soul of the South

Can your employer require that you wear MAGA caps?


18 posted on 11/20/2020 7:40:54 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: Soul of the South

That Ford mechanic’s uniform said “FORD”...OK...

The Starbucks uniform did NOT say Starbucks...It said Pride...Two different things...

Starbucks violated it’s own policies of “inclusion” by disallowing including her religious beliefs and violated “diversity” by disallowing her difference in opinion...

This is no different than a college disciplining a student for not agreeing with a professor...


25 posted on 11/20/2020 7:44:14 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Soul of the South

“Private business requires employee to wear a “uniform”. Employee refuses. Employee terminated. No different from a Ford dealer requiring mechanics to wear work clothes with a “Ford” emblem, or a bank requiring men to wear suits with ties.”

That argument only works if you could also argue that the company could force Jews to wear a swastika, or blacks to wear a Klan hood, or force gays to wear a shirt with a Scripture condemning homosexuality, assuming that none of the above have any relationship to the job. I think we all know that the government would rule against a company trying to enforce any of those rules.

Let’s keep in mind that this is very different from a religious school or organization requiring employees to live by and support the teachings of the religion. One of the primary functions of a religious organization is to support and promote the teachings of the religion in every aspect of their work. The function of Starbucks is to sell coffee, and there is no way that supporting “pride” is an essential element of performing that function. I can see prohibiting someone from wearing something that would condemn homosexuality while on the job, but to force someone to wear something that violates their religious beliefs when it has no reasonable connection to their ability to do the job will not pass Constitutional muster.

By the way, this kind of activism is just one more reason I won’t go to Starbucks...


27 posted on 11/20/2020 7:50:41 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Soul of the South

If the courts were actually consistent when it comes to the rights of businesses, then I might be inclined to agree with you, but as usual, the Left has one set of rules for those people and messages it agrees with and another set for those it doesn’t. This lady has every right to use the system as it presently exists to fight this.


33 posted on 11/20/2020 8:02:25 AM PST by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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To: Soul of the South

A Starbucks shirt is a uniform. A shirt promoting deviant and unbiblical behavior is not a uniform.

Muslims and Sihk’s have won similar lawsuits allowing beards and turbans. This is no different


38 posted on 11/20/2020 8:12:59 AM PST by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Soul of the South

Private business requires employee to wear a “uniform”.


And if the “uniform” says “Vote for Biden” or “Abortion is Sacred” or “Religion is the Opiate of the Masses” or how about “Black Lives Don’t Matter”? Those are all a bit different than a “Ford” patch on a mechanic’s shirt.


45 posted on 11/20/2020 8:33:17 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Soul of the South

I suspect that the courts will hold that there is a difference here. Court decisions are often based on ‘tests’ designed to suss out subtle differences and arrive at a conclusion. If Ford Motor Company were to require all it’s workers to wear “Biden for President” buttons on their everyday uniform the court would throw that out immediately. The same will go for Starbuck’s using their employees to temporarily virtue signal to their customers.


48 posted on 11/20/2020 9:46:11 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Soul of the South
Nope.

This was not the official uniform that she agreed to wear when she signed on.

Starbucks as a publicly traded company has limits on what they can force their employees to do. Especially when it comes to forcing an employee to violate their religious beliefs. This is a title six violation under the civil rights act.

51 posted on 11/20/2020 3:33:14 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Soul of the South

Many of the people supporting Starbucks’ corporate autonomy would flip out if, for example, Chik-Fil-A had employees wearing t-shirts with Gospel verses, or “All Lives Matter”.


52 posted on 11/20/2020 3:38:57 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Soul of the South
BS, upon being hired this lady was never told that their uniform was a homosexual pride shirt.

There is also Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
55 posted on 11/20/2020 3:53:53 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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