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What's Happening To Us?
9/19/2020 | Redheadedshannon

Posted on 11/19/2020 6:47:28 PM PST by redheadedshannon

It has been difficult trying to process everything occurring in this nation! I'm a nervous wreck. I think I instinctively know that the country is disintegrating & that we are on the verge of a national divorce & eventual civil war. We no longer trust one another. We certainly don't see each other as countrymen any more. I don't things are salvageable. It's bizarre pledging loyalty to this nation, our flag & our entire form of government, but feeling fundamentally at irreconcilable odds with half of her people. What's worst is coming to the realization that many of us, myself included, no longer have faith in our elections, our press, our schools & our national established institutions. Things feel irretrievably broken down. I don't think any of us truly want to believe that our society has become susceptible to electoral cheating, cop killing, big tech companies violating our right to free speech, a propagandized politburo press & a corrupt deep state establishment that votes against our best interests at every turn. We are now in the ultimate clusterfark that could only have capped off a year like 2020. There was likely cheating in the election, we are all suspicious of one another, it doesnt seem like the electoral investigations are going well & we are now actually contemplating having state legislatures throw out elections. I don't know what to think any more. I guess the only way I can see us successfully going forward is by dividing into different nations- a national divorce 😏


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To: lee martell
Secession takes a very long time.

Takes 5 minutes. The legislature puts it up for a vote.

41 posted on 11/19/2020 7:09:52 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: pangaea6

“I think there are WAY more of us than them, but they can’t get their way unless the country thinks its evenly split.”

On the money. No way half the population are leftwads.


42 posted on 11/19/2020 7:09:55 PM PST by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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To: redheadedshannon

We may as well get used to the fact that sooner or later (hopefully sooner) we will have to fight it out with the leftists.
May we be unremitting, unforgiving, and very VERY vengeful.
They deserve nothing less.

Sorry, but dat’s da way its going to have to be.


43 posted on 11/19/2020 7:10:01 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: redheadedshannon

Even a Military-Enforced Quarantine Can’t Stop the Virus, Study Reveals:

Jeffrey A. Tucker American Institute for Economic Research

– November 13, 2020
AIER >> Daily Economy >> Regulation >> Authoritarianism
The New England Journal of Medicine has published a study that goes to the heart of the issue of lockdowns. The question has always been whether and to what extent a lockdown, however extreme, is capable of suppressing the virus. If so, you can make an argument that at least lockdowns, despite their astronomical social and economic costs, achieve something. If not, nations of the world have embarked on a catastrophic experiment that has destroyed billions of lives, and all expectation of human rights and liberties, with no payoff at all.

[The earliest version of this article misstated the conditions of the control group. They were equally locked down with those who participated in the study. The difference between the two concerned testing frequency and the isolation response. This does not affect this article’s conclusion; indeed it strengthens it: even under extreme measures, the virus spread, and more so with the extra measure intended to control the virus. Nearly all infections were without symptoms.]

AIER has long highlighted studies that show no gain in virus management from lockdowns. Even as early as April, a major data scientist said that this virus becomes endemic in 70 days after the first round of infection, regardless of policies. The largest global study of lockdowns compared with deaths as published in The Lancet found no association between coercive stringencies and deaths per million.

To test further might seem superfluous but, for whatever reason, governments all over the world, including in the US, still are under the impression that they can affect viral transmissions through a range of “nonpharmaceutical interventions” (NPIs) like mandatory masks, forced human separation, stay-at-home orders, bans of gatherings, business and school closures, and extreme travel restrictions. Nothing like this has been tried on this scale in the whole of human history, so one might suppose that policy makers have some basis for their confidence that these measures accomplish something.

A study conducted by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center sought to test lockdownsm along with testing and isolation. In May, 3,143 new recruits to the Marines were given the option to participate in a study of frequent testing under extreme quarantine. The study was called CHARM, which stands for COVID-19 Health Action Response for Marines. Of the recruits asked, a total of 1,848 young people agreed to be guinea pigs in this experiment which involved “which included weekly qPCR testing and blood sampling for IgG antibody assessment.” In addition, the CHARM study volunteers who did test positively “on the day of enrollment (day 0) or on day 7 or day 14 were separated from their roommates and were placed in isolation.”

What did the recruits have to do? The study explains, and, as you will see, they faced an even more strict regime that has existed in civilian life in most places. All recruits, even those not in the CHARM group, did the following.

All recruits wore double-layered cloth masks at all times indoors and outdoors, except when sleeping or eating; practiced social distancing of at least 6 feet; were not allowed to leave campus; did not have access to personal electronics and other items that might contribute to surface transmission; and routinely washed their hands. They slept in double-occupancy rooms with sinks, ate in shared dining facilities, and used shared bathrooms. All recruits cleaned their rooms daily, sanitized bathrooms after each use with bleach wipes, and ate preplated meals in a dining hall that was cleaned with bleach after each platoon had eaten.

Most instruction and exercises were conducted outdoors. All movement of recruits was supervised, and unidirectional flow was implemented, with designated building entry and exit points to minimize contact among persons. All recruits, regardless of participation in the study, underwent daily temperature and symptom screening. Six instructors who were assigned to each platoon worked in 8-hour shifts and enforced the quarantine measures. If recruits reported any signs or symptoms consistent with Covid-19, they reported to sick call, underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and were placed in isolation pending the results of testing.

Instructors were also restricted to campus, were required to wear masks, were provided with preplated meals, and underwent daily temperature checks and symptom screening. Instructors who were assigned to a platoon in which a positive case was diagnosed underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and, if the result was positive, the instructor was removed from duty. Recruits and instructors were prohibited from interacting with campus support staff, such as janitorial and food-service personnel. After each class completed quarantine, a deep bleach cleaning of surfaces was performed in the bathrooms, showers, bedrooms, and hallways in the dormitories, and the dormitory remained unoccupied for at least 72 hours before reoccupancy.

The reputation of Marine basic training is that it is tough going but this really does take it to another level. Also, this is an environment where those in charge do not mess around. There was surely close to 100% compliance, as compared with, for example, a typical college campus.

What were the results? The virus still spread, though 90% of those who tested positive were without symptoms. Incredibly, 2% of the CHARM recruits still contracted the virus, even if all but one remained asymptomatic. “Our study showed that in a group of predominantly young male military recruits, approximately 2% became positive for SARS-CoV-2, as determined by qPCR assay, during a 2-week, strictly enforced quarantine.”

And how does this compare to the control group that was not tested and not isolated in the case of a positive case? Have a look at this chart from the study:

New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.aier.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Screen-Shot-2020-11-13-at-10.16.32-AM-1200x691.png

Which is to say that the nonparticipants actually contracted the virus at a slightly lower rate than those who were under an extreme regime. Conversely, extreme enforcement of NPIs plus more frequent testing and isolation was associated with a greater degree of infection.

I’m grateful to Don Wolt for drawing my attention to this study, which, so far as I know, has received very little attention from any media source at all, despite having been published in the New England Journal of Medicine on November 11.

Here are four actual media headlines about the study that miss the point entirely:

CNN: “Many military Covid-19 cases are asymptomatic, studies show”
SciTech Daily: “Asymptomatic COVID-19 Transmission Revealed Through Study of 2,000 Marine Recruits”
ABC: “Broad study of Marine recruits shows limits of COVID-19 symptom screening”
US Navy: “Navy/Marine Corps COVID-19 Study Findings Published in New England Journal of Medicine”
No national news story that I have found highlighted the most important finding of all: extreme quarantine plus frequent testing and isolation among military recruits did nothing to stop the virus.

The study is important because of the social structure of control here. It’s one thing to observe no effects from national lockdowns. There are countless variables here that could be invoked as cautionary notes: demographics, population density, preexisting immunities, degree of compliance, and so on.

But with this Marine study, you have a near homogeneous group based on age, health, and densities of living. And even here, you see confirmed what so many other studies have shown: lockdowns are pointlessly destructive.

They do not manage the disease. They crush human liberty and produce astonishing costs, such as 5.53 million years of lost life from the closing of schools alone.

The lockdowners keep telling us to pay attention to the science. That’s what we are doing. When the results contradict their pro-compulsion narrative, they pretend that the studies do not exist and barrel ahead with their scary plans to disable all social functioning in the presence of a virus. Lockdowns are not science. They never have been. They are an experiment in social/political top-down management that is without precedent in cost to life and liberty.

[The earliest version of this article misstated the conditions of the control group. They were equally locked down with those who participated in the study. The difference between the two concerned testing frequency and the isolation response. This does not affect this article’s conclusion; indeed it strengthens it: even under extreme measures, the virus spread, and more so with the extra measure intended to control the virus. Nearly all infections were without symptoms.]

https://www.aier.org/article/even-a-military-enforced-quarantine-cant-stop-the-virus-study-reveals/


44 posted on 11/19/2020 7:10:30 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Governors certify the electoral votes! Congress declares the winners! Not the left wing mediots!)
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To: Pollard
It’s been coming for 30, 40, 100 years for those who’ve been paying attention.

IMHO it's been coming for exactly 55 years now. It all started in 1965 by a guy named Johnson (most destructive president for the republic in the history of the republic) when he implemented his great society.

45 posted on 11/19/2020 7:11:02 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: central_va

Something like that only worse, it appears.


46 posted on 11/19/2020 7:11:14 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Correction: Trump's base is 73 million. There are people that voted for Trump that will never vote for GOP candidates (blacks that voted for Trump, for instance). I would knock at least 10 million off that total when you are talking about the GOP support.
47 posted on 11/19/2020 7:11:27 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Q is the larpiest larp that ever larped.)
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To: redheadedshannon

There are 2 main schools of thought on a planned socialist (communist) takeover of the US: Slowly by stealth, or fast communist-style insurrection.

The stealth plan is Fabian Socialism. The stealth socialist takeover of the US has been underway for over 100 years. Look up Fabian Socialism and The Frankfurt School. Their plan was takeover the courts, media, and schools, and socialism will be here hefore you know it. They were making great progress, almost had it, then along came Trump and blew it up.

The other school is franlky a communist insurrection. With all the brownshirt type antifa burning and killings. It is fadt and furious, not at all by stealth. It’s in-your-face AOC stuff. They are really pissed that the slow stealth guys blew it. They are dying to kill people and destroy capitalism here.

They are competing, but their goals are the same, and the only one in the way is Trump. If he goes, we’ll get lots more of each, much, much faster.

See tagline.


48 posted on 11/19/2020 7:12:37 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a Soros funded communist insurrection! )
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To: redheadedshannon
If, as your profile suggests, you are something of a monarchist, then I suggest you visit some of the NRx YouTube channels (NRx = neo-reactionary) such as:

The Distributist

Settler's Lament

Charlemagne

Endeavour

Morgoth's Review

Way of the World 2

They are equally pessimistic, but they are making plans to survive through the coming chaos.

'Red Eagle Politics' is a bit more upbeat. He came very close to predicting the election results, except for the fraud. He still thinks Trump has a chance, but even if Trump gets another four years, what happens then? Maybe the country supports Pence or Ivanka or some other Trump loyalist, but maybe they go "full retard" and vote Harris or someone like AOC. Only time will tell.

Also, Nick Fuentes and his Groyper crew seem to be up to something to undermine GOPe and the faux conservatives like Charlie Kirk and his TPUSA.

49 posted on 11/19/2020 7:13:09 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: redheadedshannon

We will have a grid locked government.

Hopefully people will learn to compromise. If not, the 2022 elections will straighten that out. Then we just need to deal with Harris until ‘24.

We are not headed to civil war. The ONLY place I read that stuff is on FR.

Turn off the TV and go for a walk.


50 posted on 11/19/2020 7:13:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: redheadedshannon

I feel like I owe Alex Jones an apology.


51 posted on 11/19/2020 7:14:18 PM PST by BusterDog
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To: Vermont Lt

We will have a grid locked government.

Hopefully people will learn to compromise. If not, the 2022 elections will straighten that out. Then we just need to deal with Harris until ‘24.


Not a chance. Wall Street is up because it’s lets make a deal time. The swamp is back in business. The GOP is so giddy at the prospect of President Biden that they can’t help themselves and are talking amnesty already.


52 posted on 11/19/2020 7:14:57 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Major Matt Mason

The new baseline is 80 million votes to win the presidency. Wow, No GOP candidate will be able do that in the future.


53 posted on 11/19/2020 7:15:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: arthurus

Trump is the only person in the nation who just might be able to reverse the assault but he is truly very nearly alone.
____________________________________________________

President Trump has the Almighty God on his side.


54 posted on 11/19/2020 7:15:22 PM PST by BarbM (I live where rivers freeze and summer ends)
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To: central_va

You live in a blue state.
Virginia is not seceding.


55 posted on 11/19/2020 7:15:50 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Pollard

You win the post of the evening. Thousands of years.

Maybe soon.


57 posted on 11/19/2020 7:18:26 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: Lurkinanloomin

If Texas and the mid west secede I’m there in flash. F Va. Most Freepers think moving is the worse thing in the world. Like it is almost dying or a fatal disease.


58 posted on 11/19/2020 7:19:33 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: redheadedshannon

What’s happening? read your Bible. the “powers and principalities,” the spiritually wicked in high places are attempting to destroy our nation as founded.

will God allow this? only if He sees a way that it will destroy those evil ones in the end and redound to His Glory and to the Glory of His Church. we must take up this cross, though, and obey Him in all things. carrying this cross is a great comfort to me. i’ll pray that God please give you and all like you peace, the peace that passes all understanding of this world. may God bless you.


59 posted on 11/19/2020 7:19:59 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yep. And I love your tag line. Q got dumped in the same fashion and reason that Alex Jones got banned. Theatre.


60 posted on 11/19/2020 7:20:25 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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