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How the postal union can steal the election --- back dating envelopes
twitter ^ | 10-30-20 | dfu

Posted on 10/30/2020 9:11:34 AM PDT by doug from upland



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KEYWORDS: lateballots; postoffice; voterfraud
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1 posted on 10/30/2020 9:11:34 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

How do the rank and file feel? The “union” may endorse but what about the members? My neighbor is in the IFFA and I believe they have endorsed byeDUHn but lots of the operators are like, uh, NO!


2 posted on 10/30/2020 9:13:52 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: doug from upland

that actually requires a prison term for postal tampering.


3 posted on 10/30/2020 9:15:17 AM PDT by davidb56
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To: doug from upland

How will they know who the ballot is for?


4 posted on 10/30/2020 9:16:23 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: rktman

Rank and file does not matter. What matters is the union’s ability to determine how many votes are needed in what area and then put the right date on the envelopes. A handful of people could create ballots in the right states to turn the election. And, as we have seen, matching signatures do not matter.


5 posted on 10/30/2020 9:17:04 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: davidb56

If they win, who will prosecute? Who would even investigate?


6 posted on 10/30/2020 9:18:46 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Lower Deck

Steaming open the envelope? Or, I am sure they can find the list of those who have not voted and vote for them. Postal carriers know if someone has died at a residence. That unused ballot can now be used.


7 posted on 10/30/2020 9:21:12 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: doug from upland

Blackelk (R.I.P.) had a postmark issue, but rather than back date the envelope, he had the clerk (who he knew) smudge it so it was illegible. That was decades ago, and the technology is different now.


8 posted on 10/30/2020 9:24:36 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: doug from upland

Rank and file does not matter. What matters is the union’s ability to determine how many votes are needed in what area and then put the right date on the envelopes. A handful of people could create ballots in the right states to turn the election. And, as we have seen, matching signatures do not matter.


If the election is close, that can happen, but if it is 20K or 100K in Trump’s favor, that is a ton of ballots to make up


9 posted on 10/30/2020 9:25:06 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: doug from upland

This “could” happen.
Maybe on a very limited scale.

I might get struck by lightning tonite too.


10 posted on 10/30/2020 9:27:35 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: doug from upland

Conspiracy theory. Unless they have a way of seeing who was selected on the ballot, they do not know if the voter was D or R.


11 posted on 10/30/2020 9:30:34 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: doug from upland
I remember back in the "olden days" before the Internet that there would be a long line of cars at the Post Office on April 15th. This was back when you had to actually mail in a paper copy of your Tax Return.

No matter how late into the evening and into the early morning of April 16th you waited in line, the Post Office would accept your return and postmark it "April 15."

So yes, it can be done.

12 posted on 10/30/2020 9:36:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: doug from upland

That section, although it sounds disturbing, relates to Special Event or Pictorial Postmarks...

At least 10 weeks before the date of the event, sponsors or organizers of events who wish to use a pictorial postmark must submit a letter of request to the postmaster of the city where the postmark is to be used. Requests submitted less than 10 weeks before the date of the event are subject to rejection.

https://about.usps.com/handbooks/po230/po230c4_001.htm

Not that it would be impossible to change the date stamp on a postal machine, but it would be a multi-person effort.


13 posted on 10/30/2020 9:37:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Lower Deck

We need to look for ballots postmarked on the Nov. 8 with the 8 smeared to look like a 3


14 posted on 10/30/2020 9:37:50 AM PDT by RossA
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To: Lower Deck

They will do this for the ballots they paid people to fill out before hand somewhere in a warehouse.

Why do you think the big push for extending days after the Nov 3rd date?


15 posted on 10/30/2020 9:40:04 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: DennisR
Conspiracy theory. Unless they have a way of seeing who was selected on the ballot, they do not know if the voter was D or R.

Or, and this is double-plus conspiracy theory, a DNC Operative can hand a crate full of ballots to a Postal Worker insider any time AFTER the election.

The insider(s) back-postmark the ballots to election day, and deliver them before the "receive by" deadline of the particular state in question.

16 posted on 10/30/2020 9:40:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: doug from upland

Good thread thank you.

“10 Backdating and Pre–Dating
It is the policy of the Postal Service to prohibit backdating and pre–dating of mail except in the following cases:

(a) When postal operating requirements and public demand necessitate that postmarking commence before and/or continue after the date contained in the postmark. However, under no circumstances may any postmarked material be released before the date of the postmark.
(b) When replacements are made for damaged, defective, or missing postmarks or covers.
(c) When all requirements for postmarks are met by a customer but postmarks are not applied because of errors by Postal Service personnel.
(d) When authorization is specifically provided in writing by a Stamp Services manager.”

https://about.usps.com/handbooks/po230/po230c10.htm#:~:text=It%20is%20the%20policy%20of,date%20contained%20in%20the%20postmark.


17 posted on 10/30/2020 9:41:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: DennisR
Conspiracy theory. Unless they have a way of seeing who was selected on the ballot, they do not know if the voter was D or R.

There will be neighborhoods which lean heavily one way or another, and the postal workers will know which they are.

If they "misplace" a bunch of ballots from a heavily Republican area, they can be sure they have mostly shited the vote total in favor of the Democrats. Likewise if they back-postmark ballots from heavily Democrat neighborhoods, or give delivery/sorting preference to one neighborhood over another.

18 posted on 10/30/2020 9:45:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: doug from upland

Any company that runs there own mailroom, has the capability to do this with there metering machine as well. (Unless safeguards on newer equipment have been put in place?)


19 posted on 10/30/2020 9:53:09 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: doug from upland

Don’t business office have this option, too? Don’t they have their own stamping machines?


20 posted on 10/30/2020 9:54:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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