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Expanded Probe Into Allegations White House Interfered in CDC No Sail Order
Cruise Hive ^ | Oct 15, 2020 | Robert McGillivray

Posted on 10/15/2020 11:27:56 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

While the cruise industry waits for a decision on when cruising can resume, the White House and CDC are being asked to elaborate on allegations they may have intervened in the Centers for Disease Control decision-making process.

The Chair of the House Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation, Sean Patrick Maloney, has now requested additional documentation from the CDC after it was reported that the White House had interfered with the CDC’s decision to extend the No Sail Order.

According to widely publicized publications, the Trump administration intervened last month when Dr. Robert Redfield of the CDC wanted to extend the current no sail order to February 2021. Subsequently, the No Sail Order had been put back to an extension of only one month through October 31, 2020.

Maloney: “Cruise ships continue to be an unsafe environment.” Representative Sean Patrick Maloney released the following statement on his expanded request:

“These ships shouldn’t leave port until we know passengers and crew will be safe, and the ships won’t again become global vectors of disease.”

The representative also elaborated on the alleged interference and questions the subjectivity of the CDC:

“However, I am worried about impairments to the independence of the CDC’s science-based and unbiased public health advice based on reported interference from the White House and political leadership at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) as well as pressure from the cruise line industry.”

“I was alarmed to read recent press reports that allege the CDC wanted to extend the No Sail Order to February 15, 2021, but after intervention by the White House, the extension was shortened to October 31, 2020.”

The representative did not elaborate on how the pressure would have been applied to Dr. Redfield and the CDC, or whether it was a decision made solely by him, yet in consideration of a struggling industry.

Have the Cruise Lines Ended up In Political Issues? While it is not surprising that an investigation into the matter has followed, this is standard practice, it is worrying for the cruise lines that they have now seemed to have ended up in a political issue.

A political issue where the representative paints a very bleak picture of the cruise industry and disregards the policies and procedures that have been put in place for a healthy and safe return to cruising.

In his statement, the Chair mentions instances where people contracted COVID-19 onboard ships yet fails to mention that all these cases occurred before an adequate response was possible, and without the information available now on the disease.

Is it really unsafe to sail?

As it stands today, cruise lines operate safely and at less capacity yet successfully from European ports. The CLIA, Cruise Lines International Association, and the major cruise lines have put together various new procedures that have been proven incredibly successful already.

Also Read: Will Mandatory Testing Be a Turn Off for Cruise Passengers?

There is no chance that the cruise industry will have a zero percent infection rate throughout all voyages and all ships that ordinarily sail from the U.S.

However, with the new policies and procedures that are in place, everyone that wants to sail should be able to be reasonably safe, with testing for all passengers and crew the risk of infection will be small to non-existent.

As it stands, the letter and statements made by Representative Malone should be taken in the context in which they are written, the upcoming elections.

Related: CDC No Sail Order Officially Extended But There’s More to This

The representative said about cruising today: “Cruise ships should not sail until passengers and crew will be safe and the ships won’t again become global vectors of disease”. While in May 2020 Representative Maloney called cruise ships: “A care-free escape from reality where passengers can dine, dance, relax, and mingle.”


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It appears the CDC will be getting some help from the Democrat Rep. Maloney, to kill the Cruise Industry prospects of Cruising from this country until sometime next year, 2021.

The representative said about cruising today: “Cruise ships should not sail until passengers and crew will be safe and the ships won’t again become global vectors of disease”. While in May 2020 Representative Maloney called cruise ships: “A care-free escape from reality where passengers can dine, dance, relax, and mingle.” - Tom

1 posted on 10/15/2020 11:27:56 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

Everyone knows the CDC is an independent power of its own, answerable to no one. Well, when a Republican is President anyway.


2 posted on 10/15/2020 11:30:26 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Capt. Tom

The same way my boss “intervenes” when he tells me to get something done by 5PM, or else.


3 posted on 10/15/2020 11:30:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Capt. Tom

If this is the best they have....


4 posted on 10/15/2020 11:30:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: Capt. Tom

“Cruise ships should not sail until passengers and crew will be safe and the ships won’t again become global vectors of disease”

So...never?


5 posted on 10/15/2020 11:31:06 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ( Deplorable, and proud of it.)
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"However, I am worried about impairments to the independence of the CDC’s science-based and unbiased public health advice based"

Yeah, right... the CDC tossed science out the window as soon as politicians took over COVID as a political tool...

6 posted on 10/15/2020 11:31:45 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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“These ships shouldn’t leave port until we know passengers and crew will be safe, and the ships won’t again become global vectors of disease.”

Oh please, spare us the bullshit.

7 posted on 10/15/2020 11:32:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Ships have ALWAYS been the “global vectors of disease”.

Great Scott, doesn’t anybody read history anymore?


8 posted on 10/15/2020 11:34:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Before the commie virus, I was on cruise and got the flu while there. Does the flu count too? Because that would mean they will never sail since apparently one can catch disease anytime, chinese virus or not.


9 posted on 10/15/2020 11:35:02 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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Who will investigate the CDC contradicting the CDC on the effectiveness of masks?

Last month the CDC Director told us that the mask protects the wearer more than a vaccine would.

Yesterday the CDC told us that the mask does NOT protect the wearer.

10 posted on 10/15/2020 11:36:49 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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So how exactly does the President “interfere” with the activities of an executive branch agency?


11 posted on 10/15/2020 11:38:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: G Larry

The CDC will be investigating charges that the CDC may have lied to the CDC when the CDC made incorrect statements that masks may or may not work.


12 posted on 10/15/2020 11:38:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Syphilis, small pox, cholera, measles, typhus, plague
13 posted on 10/15/2020 11:40:05 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Capt. Tom

I wonder...........maybe this was some kind of conspiracy to drive the cruise industry into bankruptcy so they could be bought for near nothing by someone with deep pockets...............naaaah, couldn’t be....................


14 posted on 10/15/2020 11:40:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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“...the White House and CDC are being asked to elaborate on allegations they may have intervened in the Centers for Disease Control decision-making process.”

So what? A pro-business President supporting business is not a crime.


15 posted on 10/15/2020 11:40:27 AM PDT by moovova
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To: ClearCase_guy

House Subcommittee “

The CDC is destroying the cruise industry because the rats there think they are just floating playgrounds for rich white people. Trump is trying to save them. This effects more people than you can imagine.


16 posted on 10/15/2020 11:43:58 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Great Scott, doesn’t anybody read history anymore?

Or Daniel Defoe.

17 posted on 10/15/2020 11:45:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Steely Tom

Same with the EPA - Leftists demand “the law must be followed” when the EPA enacts leftist regulations but suddenly flip to “states rights!” when the EPA is under GOP control.

Same with sanctuary cities.


18 posted on 10/15/2020 11:46:26 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Capt. Tom

G*D*MMIT every time Trump sneezes they have a ‘probe’ into his actions...

But the Democrats commit OUTRIGHT TREASON AND SEDITION and nothing happens!!!!!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............!!!!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 10/15/2020 11:49:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: jmaroneps37
If this is the best they have....

It is, just like biden and harris are the best they have.

20 posted on 10/15/2020 11:49:57 AM PDT by null and void (Surely there must be someone on FR who makes bricks! Contact me if that's you!)
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