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Quotes About the Military-Industrial Complex
Ammo.com ^ | 10/15/2020 | Brian Miller

Posted on 10/14/2020 11:06:07 PM PDT by ammodotcom

“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.” – George Orwell

“I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security.” – Jim Garrison

“Putting aside all the fancy words and academic doubletalk, the basic reason for having a military is to do two jobs – to kill people and to destroy.” – General Thomas S. Power

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; military; quotes; war

1 posted on 10/14/2020 11:06:07 PM PDT by ammodotcom
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https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp


Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

My fellow Americans:

Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.

Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all.

Our people expect their President and the Congress to find essential agreement on issues of great moment, the wise resolution of which will better shape the future of the Nation.

My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed me to West Point, have since ranged to the intimate during the war and immediate post-war period, and, finally, to the mutually interdependent during these past eight years.

In this final relationship, the Congress and the Administration have, on most vital issues, cooperated well, to serve the national good rather than mere partisanship, and so have assured that the business of the Nation should go forward. So, my official relationship with the Congress ends in a feeling, on my part, of gratitude that we have been able to do so much together.

II.

We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America’s leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.

III.

Throughout America’s adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.

Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology — global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily the danger is poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle — with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment.

Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research — these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.

But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs — balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage — balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.

The record of many decades stands as proof that our people and their government have, in the main, understood these truths and have responded to them well, in the face of stress and threat. But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. I mention two only.

IV.

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

V.

Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society’s future, we — you and I, and our government — must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

VI.

Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield.

Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war — as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years — I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.

Happily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But, so much remains to be done. As a private citizen, I shall never cease to do what little I can to help the world advance along that road.

VII.

So — in this my last good night to you as your President — I thank you for the many opportunities you have given me for public service in war and peace. I trust that in that service you find some things worthy; as for the rest of it, I know you will find ways to improve performance in the future.

You and I — my fellow citizens — need to be strong in our faith that all nations, under God, will reach the goal of peace with justice. May we be ever unswerving in devotion to principle, confident but humble with power, diligent in pursuit of the Nation’s great goals.

To all the peoples of the world, I once more give expression to America’s prayerful and continuing aspiration:
Source:
Public Papers of the Presidents, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1960, p. 1035- 1040


2 posted on 10/14/2020 11:08:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I spent 33 years in the military industrial complex on the industrial side. Between 20-30 years ago I was at the dinners where Army officers plowed through lobsters and an amazing number of mixed drinks and chipped in a dollar. I was there, I was told, to create the atmosphere that it was a party and so the company could pick up my tab. (Literally. That is how the Program Manager put it to me, because I did not want to attend.) I have seen some dirty and unseemly things, usually described laughingly over coffee by the people who did them. I asked one PM what was in his little black book. He flipped it over so I could see some entries and said, “I write down every time I supply a prostitute, to whom, the date, etc.” (He specifically dealt with Canada. Which, yes, does have a navy.)

Since then things have changed. The officers who arrive pay for their own dinners and if there is any drinking they pay for their own. The bribes are different now. I was on the way back with our director of manufacturing from an unsuccessful meeting with the Army PM. The director was in very good spirits as our part of the meeting had gone better than I expected. I mentioned how badly it had gone with the Army PM, who had yelled equally at all about our lousy hardware but awarded us more award fee than I expected. He told me that they had already agreed to hire the Army PM as director of Marketing and not to worry. The plan was the Army guy was 18 months from retirement and he was transferring to another post to meet the legal time limit for taking a job with a contractor. We had just gone through the acceptance testing and the other supplier was furious that most of the failures were attributed to them and few to us. I asked about that and the director told me, “He wanted to go to work for them and they turned him down.” Award fee is based on passing the test. The attribution of failures removes money from the pockets of executives for the penalized company. It could be millions of dollars. I have no idea how much the individual company officials got, but our company guys all bought a new car.

I understand how legal cases are built and the problem with me filing a complaint about any of this, is, it’s heresy. I would be labeled a disgruntled employee and fired. You can not make an anonymous complaint and have it taken seriously. Excuses and reasoning to plausibly explain suspicious circumstances would be drafted by people who knew the laws, rules and exceptions by heart. In the end the accuser is destroyed. And, the system is built this way on purpose to prevent innocent men from being railroaded by someone with an grudge towards them. I agree with the way the system is built.

The character, Havelock Pigeon, in my two novels linked below, suffers through incidents that I either experienced or were experienced by people I knew and sat with every day. Much of the plot, minus the briefcase and the high speed chase in the second book, is pretty much spot on in how the seamy underside really works. (Or, worked from about 1985 to 1997 when my job changed and I seldom interfaced directly with customers.)

https://www.amazon.com/Havelocks-Inheritance-Havelock-Pigeon-Book-ebook/dp/B00BFVRCK4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1602755939&refinements=p_27%3ABern+Pearson&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/Havelocks-Corpse-Book-Bern-Pearson-ebook/dp/B00BGT9OVK/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&qid=1602755939&refinements=p_27%3ABern+Pearson&s=digital-text&sr=1-6


3 posted on 10/15/2020 3:16:33 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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“heresy” - hearsay.


4 posted on 10/15/2020 3:26:34 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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Amazing story – and incredibly frustrating. I’ll add Havelock’s Inheritance to my endless reading list.


5 posted on 10/15/2020 1:13:29 PM PDT by ammodotcom
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My favorite is Havelock’s Corpse. There really was a salesman at one of my companies just like that. He apparently dealt with clandestine sales and I think the company really didn’t want to know to whom he sold. (He ends up dead before a critical sale and Havelock is coerced into making the sale. Then, he finds out what he’s selling and to whom.)


6 posted on 10/15/2020 1:17:38 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: Zhang Fei; Gen.Blather; ammodotcom; Interesting Times; ASA Vet

And further down in President Eisenhower’s address are these two paragraphs that warn of another elite, just as dangerous the often quoted “military-industrialists:”

“Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.”

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”


7 posted on 10/15/2020 4:41:49 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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And further down in President Eisenhower’s address are these two paragraphs that warn of another elite, just as dangerous the often quoted “military-industrialists:”

The speech was mainly about the need to maintain a military-industrial complex, while warning about letting spending get out of hand. Since defense spending never went below 10% of the economy throughout his two terms, that level was presumably fine with him. We are now spending just under 4%. Before WWII, it was 1%. That's why we got our clocks cleaned at Pearl Harbor, and had our asses kicked at Kasserine Pass. In the nuclear age, starting off on defense will have far more severe consequences, none of them good.

8 posted on 10/15/2020 5:26:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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