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The Founders Wanted You to Own an AR-15
nationalreview.com ^ | Oct. 13, 2020 | DAVID HARSANY

Posted on 10/14/2020 8:36:58 AM PDT by PROCON

In his questioning of Amy Coney Barrett regarding an Indiana case about a non-violent felon and his constitutional right to bear arms, Illinois senator Dick Durbin dropped numerous false claims about Chicago gun crimes. But he topped it all off with one of the most egregiously inane arguments used against the private ownership of guns:

When that Second Amendment was written . . . we were talking about the likelihood that a person could purchase a muzzle-loading musket.

Durbin went on to say that the logical conclusion of the “originalist” position on firearms should be that the Founders were referring to flintlock muskets rather than modern “military weapons.” (A purposefully misleading labelling of semi-automatic rifles that Democrats are trying to ban.)

Originalism, of course, isn’t the same as literalism. Even it were, Durbin would be wrong. Because the right to self-defense isn’t predicated on any one specific weapon but a principle. Which is why the Second Amendment doesn’t guarantee the right of individuals to “keep and bear Kentucky rifles” any more than the First Amendment guarantees the right of individuals to “write on parchment paper” or to worship “in Anglican and Presbyterian churches.”

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; banglist; dickdurbin; nra; rkba; secondamendment
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A rebuttal to Sen. Turbin's inane interpretation of the 2nd Amendment at yesterday's SCOTUS confirmation hearings.
1 posted on 10/14/2020 8:36:58 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 10/14/2020 8:38:26 AM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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To: PROCON

The 2nd amendment is the last bastion of freedom, meant to protect the constitution.

Seeing how brazen the attack is on the 1st amendment, without the 2nd we are doomed.

The founders would WANT the population to have the BEST weapons, in order to mount the BEST defense of the Constitution.


3 posted on 10/14/2020 8:44:06 AM PDT by Professional
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To: PROCON

I love shooting my AR so much I have two them. They’re like sister wives to me.


4 posted on 10/14/2020 8:44:32 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: PROCON

Sorta.
The Founders wanted you to own an M-4, or an M-16, or a M-249 SAW.
Or an RPG or an ATGM or a MANPAD.
They intended us to be armed, at a minimum, like light infantry.


5 posted on 10/14/2020 8:46:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (uan)
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To: PROCON
the logical conclusion of the “originalist” position on firearms Freedom of the Press should be that the Founders were referring to flintlock muskets Single Sheet Printing Presses rather than modern “military weapons.” High Capacity Transmission Devices capable of polluting the minds of Millions Instantly.
6 posted on 10/14/2020 8:46:56 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: PROCON

The founders wanted citizens to have the best arms available. It was the citizen that provided the first response to trouble. The only thing that has changed is the number of tyrannical people in government that do not understand that concept.


7 posted on 10/14/2020 8:52:21 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: eyeamok

That’s the correct argument to make.

“Senator, when the First Amendment was written people were using quill pens and parchment. Does that mean Congress can ban television, radio, and high speed printing presses?”

Then just be quiet and wait for that idiot Durbin to catch fire.

L


8 posted on 10/14/2020 8:54:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: PROCON

And if ‘Dick Durbin Before He Dicks You’ was right, we could each have a cannon too. And one of those wicked triangular bayonets.


9 posted on 10/14/2020 8:57:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Little Ray
"Sorta. The Founders wanted you to own an M-4, or an M-16, or a M-249 SAW. Or an RPG or an ATGM or a MANPAD. They intended us to be armed, at a minimum, like light infantry.

 

EXACTLY

10 posted on 10/14/2020 8:58:12 AM PDT by Borderline
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To: PROCON

Federal govt auctioned cannons and ammo left over from the Civil war to the public NY & Phil’s newspapers 1866 +. You could buy a machine gun until 1922. You could bring AK47s n grenades right thru the SF airport 1965-67 from Vietnam n nobody cared. I did troop transport with GI’ s exiting nam.


11 posted on 10/14/2020 8:59:51 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It's NYC.)
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To: PROCON
Senator Turban bleives that we should all still be in the balck powder and musket era.
Little does the Sinator remember history where the colonials already had firearms the equivalent of an armed army at there disposal.
Where did the colonials get their munitions to conduct the American Revolution ? Ostensibly, the colonies had arms to defend against an armed army of native American Indians, brigands, and to defend themselves.
That is also why we had an armed militia of other folks, of family, neighbors, friends, and neighboring communities for community defense.
Where did the colonials get their artillery and firearms ?
They already had them !
Do we now have armed invaders who threaten out livelihood and existence ?
Answer this : Do we now have BLM, break-in residence thieves, burglars, thieves, and armed anarchists within our gates,
threatening our lives, our families, and our existence ?
Yes we do ! And the only thing that stops them is an armed, and responsible, and polite society.
If you take away our self-defense, then you are exposing the society and culture to threats of forcible change, power, intimidation, and corruption.
The Second Amendment stays put as a "God given right" for self-defense, as intended by the Founders.

12 posted on 10/14/2020 9:00:03 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: PROCON

I believe Durbin is up for reelection this year. He’s using the hearings for free TV time. Although I’m sure he’d love SCOTUS to rule against all modern firearms.


13 posted on 10/14/2020 9:00:11 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Little Ray

The argument can also be made that If I can afford an F-35 or Apache helicopter, I should be able to have that as well - per the Constitution.


14 posted on 10/14/2020 9:01:59 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
The Founders wanted you to own an AR-15,
otherwise, those who control the arsenal of AR-15s
control your life !
15 posted on 10/14/2020 9:05:51 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I’m good with that, too!
Light infantry was a minimum.


16 posted on 10/14/2020 9:06:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (uan)
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To: PROCON
Not only did the Founding Fathers intend for us to own an AR-15, AR-10, etc. they expected us to train on using it.

The firing ranges at military bases (both small arm and crew-served weapons), including the Service Academies, need to be opened up to civilian training. National and State Parks need to have ranges added as well, with as much unrelenting effort as enforcing compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

17 posted on 10/14/2020 9:09:16 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The argument can also be made that If I can afford an F-35 or Apache helicopter, I should be able to have that as well - per the Constitution.

Provided you can make one or find someone to sell you one, don't see why not. Would also add, no government, party or company should be forced to sell you one. Free market.

18 posted on 10/14/2020 9:09:29 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: PROCON

AR 15s seem to be as rare as hens teeth these days...

Anyone know of a place online you can order and have it delivered locally?


19 posted on 10/14/2020 9:16:03 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: PROCON

The Founders Wanted You to Own an AR-15

To this day some people can’t understand why people left England to live in an unsettled land.


20 posted on 10/14/2020 9:16:16 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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