Posted on 09/22/2020 7:21:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Western experts are weighing in on Chinese whistle-blower Dr. Li-Meng Yan’s report claiming to show COVID-19 was man-made in a lab — with several dismissing it as more of a theoretical think piece that offers no new evidence and includes flawed research.
“One of the major arguments [in the paper] is that [the virus] is so unique, it can’t have been generated naturally, the only explanation is that it’s man-made,” Dr. Gary Whittaker, a professor of virology at Cornell University’s College of Veterinary Medicine, told The Post. “I would push back on that.”
Yan’s report, published late Monday on the website Zenote, says Sars-Cov-2’s unique genome shows it was created in a lab because the specific sequences of the mystery bug aren’t found in nature.
Jason Kaelber, a Rutgers University virologist and an assistant research professor at the Institute for Quantitative Biomedicine, said that’s simply not the case.
“All the weird things about Sars-Cov-2 are completely consistent with the sort of weirdness that happens in wild viruses all the time,” Kaelber told The Post.
“One reason why I haven’t gone looking for explanations of artificial origins is because we knew something like this was going to happen sooner or later,” he continued, citing the recent Zika virus outbreak and MERS in 2012, among others.
“This one is the worst since AIDS but it’s not the first and it won’t be the last. So if all the labs in the world shut down, these things would keep coming.”
Kaelber said Yan writes significantly about an apparent “restriction site” on the virus’s genome — a place where a scientist could cut out a piece from a naturally occurring bug and insert something man made — and dismissed it as just “seeing patterns where no patterns exist.”
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US paid off or threatened scientists can dispute all they want but other virologists from 5 different Countries have already said this virus was engineered to infect humans even before the Chinese lady Virologist went on TV.
Aside from the snarky ad-hominem attack on Dr. Yan’s intelligence there is a fundamental misunderstanding in the logic of this argument. Dr. Yan is not asserting that the virus was genetically edited only that it was developed in a laboratory using in vitro techniques to achieve “gain of function” capabilities. The fact that this virus has been determined by independent Australian virologists to be optimized to attack the human ACE2 receptor is suspicious from a natural selection standpoint.
Until we have a blue ribbon panel of respected virologist experts review this and provide a report to the nation like the Challenger report we will never be sure what to believe. The risk is to our security if this was an intentional bioweapon attack and we don’t even recognize it as such.
RE: other virologists from 5 different Countries have already said this virus was engineered to infect humans
The only one I know who observed this is Australia’s Nikolai Petrovsky, whose lab at Flinder University is developing a vaccine for Covid-19.
Do you know the other virologists in the other countries? Maybe an article link would be helpful. Thanks.
RE: Iirc, the Australians were the first to make the claim, the virus was ‘man made’..
Yes. See article link in Post #5 above.
Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, one of Australia’s leading Molecular Biologist, and whose lab is developing a vaccine for Covid-19, makes a similar observations as Dr. Yan . See here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8356751/How-COVID-19s-unique-structure-means-man-made.html
Thanks.
These so-called leading virologists are covering for Fauci. What about Fauci funding “Gain of Function” Coronavirus research at the Wuhan Lab?
I have read the article twice, and there are two things that concern me.
First, there are untrue things that you would have to know a lot about virology to know are false - for example, the assertion that a furin cleavage site is unique to SARS CoV 2 when it is not.
Second, the assertion about the METHOD and the PURPOSE of the release (while it may be 100% true) does not follow from the data or other information in the article.
She’s eithre an eyewitness to the conspiracy, has it from a reliable informant, or it’s an educated guess.
Some may peg this as a Tin Foil Hat Alert
Luc Montagnier, French Nobel prize winner for his work in AIDS, says COVID19 was made in a lab. He actually has a laboratory in China and has knowledge as to what the Chinese scientific community is working on as far as the HIV virus and vaccine creation. His claim is that COVID19 was the result of a faulty HIV vaccine. (The Chinese were doing second stage trials of a new HIV vaccine in July, 2019) A claim, if true, would be an even greater incentive to silence any information pertaining to COVID19’s origin. It also explains why both Fauci and Birx were the administration’s main scientific voices - both have made their careers in HIV vaccine research.
The military lab claim that has just come out in the news is not necessarily a falsehood. The military may have had soldiers as the test “volunteers” for the vaccine. HIV is a huge medical problem in China and the government has a great desire to see the disease finally controlled or eradicated.
Another point: SARS escaped from Chinese labs twice
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-analysis/sars-escaped-beijing-lab-twice-50137
July 2019: Chinese staring stage two trials HIV vaccine
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/19/c_138240181.htm
RE: Second, the assertion about the METHOD and the PURPOSE of the release
There are other FReepers who have responded to the furin cleavage argument. Let me dig up the FR archives and post them to you here.
As for METHOD or PURPOSE, I don’t think we can ever know what the METHOD, much less PURPOSE is. To do that, we have to be have the Omniscient ability to READ INTO the minds of others.
That is why I said I am not at this point, looking at the motives of people. I am only interested in the SCIENCE.
RE: First, there are untrue things that you would have to know a lot about virology to know are false - for example, the assertion that a furin cleavage site is unique to SARS CoV 2 when it is not.
Here is the argument made by poster: grey-whiskers regarding the issue of furin-cleave sites:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3884605/posts?q=1&;page=51
Post #69 of the above page.
The issue isn’t that a furin cleavage site has never been seen in nature.
It’s that, if COVID-19 evolved naturally, you’d see the furin-19 cleavage site, in its nearest relatives: the most closely related coronaviruses.
BUT THEY DON’T HAVE ONE.
And then you go to the coronaviruses that DO have a furin cleavage site.
And their genetic sequence, around the spike, is only a 60% match to the COVID-19 spike.
AND (which you conveniently left out) COVID-19’s spike, has on either side of it, genetic sequences which are used to cut-and-paste sections of genes in the lab.
‘COVID-19’s furin site is unique and not found in nature’ IS NOT THE SAME THING AS: ‘there has never been a furin cleavage site anywhere else’.
He also said:
the article plants in the casual user’s mind, the idea that Dr. Yan is misinformed (’Actually, there are all kinds of furin cleavages in coronaviruses, unlike Yan who said COVID_19’s furin is unique and not found in nature.’)
But YAN never said that! YAN said that THAT PARTICULAR GENETIC SEQUENCE for a furin cleavage site, doesn’t exist in nature.
And it is proven beyond the possibility of a shadow of a doubt, because the very virus given by the “natural occurence” apologists,
a) never shared a host with the Coronavirus precursors
b) indications are that it apparently can’t even infect its own supposed natural host (that is, it was most likely engineered too)
These so called scientists are all bought and paid for here. One should not believe a word they say.
(2) Still waiting to hear why no lab has been able to infect any bats or pangolins with the original Wuhan virus.
I believe she has previously said it was unique that the first appearance of a zoonotic virus had a flawless furin cleavage site.
It is also curious that the USA medical establishment seems to have no interest in what animal is spreading this infection and no interest in seeing the contact tracing for the original victims.
“US virologists dispute Chinese whistleblower’s claim that COVID-19 is man made”. Why, of course they dispute it. They’d like to kill the idea before it spreads. Because SOME OF THEM finnagled hundreds of millions of American Dollar$ to FINANCE the research in the Yuhan lab that PRODUCED the virus and got it started spreading around the globe. IMHO.
https://freebeacon.com/campus/u-s-universities-failed-to-disclose-donations-from-hostile-regimes/
Cornell features prominently.
keep in mind that he is a veterinarian
Yes, but he is a veterinarian who specializes in virology in animals.
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