Posted on 09/20/2020 5:21:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Places with highest daily reported cases per capita
Seven-day average of daily new reported cases per 100,000 residents
Utah is over the top in cases over the last four days, but no real increase in hospitalizations and only one of those days had deaths (3). It’s turned into a hypercontageous cold, nothing more.
Hypercontageous cold that’s deadly for the elderly.
True but vaccines exist for those illnesses you cite. If a vax is found vcv for CCP Virus then it would join those other afflictions. But I have some doubt that such a vax will be found.
That's a rather silly position to take at this point in time. There's no technical challenges left with a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, there's over 200 vaccine candidates, multiple candidates are in the final phase of human clinical trials right now, and all expectations are that we'll have at least one safe and approved vaccine available in the next couple months. Likely we'll have at least 2 or 3 in hand before the end of the year. Moderna says they'll have 20 million doses ready this year.
Why on Earth wouldn't we have a vaccine for this? All the resources necessary have already been committed and there's nothing preventing it.
Then a freeper pointed out how vaccines WERE created/started and got through various testings, but the viruses (MERS, SARS, etc.) had run its course naturally so the vaccine was not needed.
And these scientists are using those vaccines as the starting point and adjusting it to this latest variation. I can't recall all of the points that they made - but it sounded very compelling that the experts are so much farther ahead of the game this time around. IIRC, some of those earlier ones had begun human trials, or very close to it.
I’ve pointed that out a few times myself. SARS-CoV-1 (SARS 2003) and MERS-CoV (MERS 2012) both had viable vaccine candidates successfully created. They went through phase 1 and phase 2 human trials successfully. They just burned out before phase 3 trials began, and since phase 3 trials are massively expensive (tens of thousands of closely monitored and paid volunteers), there needs to be a viable market for the end product in order to justify the cost of running those trials.
Some of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine candidates come directly from reworked SARS-CoV-1 vaccine candidates. Many are fresh, new approaches. The speed we saw the new vaccine candidates arrive is only surprising for people that don’t follow vaccine development. There hasn’t been any magic involved with getting the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine candidates faster than normal; just a steady improvement over time.
It took decades to get a viable polio or H1N1 Influenza vaccine candidate. In the 1990s, it took a few years of work to get a viable varicella (chickenpox) vaccine candidate. SARS-CoV-1 took 20 months in 2003. Ebola took 7 months in 2014. Zika took 6 months in 2016. And in 2020, it took about 2 months for SARS-CoV-2.
This isn’t magic; just incremental improvements brought on by better tools, better funding, and more experience over time.
I’m pretty sure you are the freeper I was thinking of! That all sounds familiar. Thanks for the enlightening posts.
40% of colds come from corona viruses. We have no vax for colds. A vax for AIDS has been the Holy Grail for 40 years. Also there is the question of the duration of a vax’ effectiveness. Polio vax was for a lifetime but will corona vax be for a lifetime or will a booster be needed every six months or so?
I hope that a vax is forthcoming because the next one of these the Chicoms release will be more like MERS than Covid 19.
Nope. Coronaviruses cause about 15% of colds, not 40%. Source. And also irrelevant to SARS-CoV-2 vaccine development.
"We have no vax for colds."
What does that have to do with anything? A vaccine for the "common cold" would have to cover over 200 different viruses from multiple families and be updated every single year. Such a vaccine would cost thousands of dollars a year (if not tens of thousands) and the only upside is you would have a reduced risk of catching a cold. Nobody would buy that. So there's no market. So there's no product. That's how the free market works. STILL irrelevant to the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine development.
"A vax for AIDS has been the Holy Grail for 40 years."
What does that have to do with anything? HIV isn't a coronavirus. And the biggest problems with HIV are that it 1) doesn't provoke a complete immune system response 2) hides very well from the immune system and 3) mutates extremely rapidly. But since HIV is completely different from SARS-CoV-2, what difference does that make? Are you seriously claiming that since we don't have a vaccine for every single virus that exists, creating a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is impossible? This isn't a video game; we don't have to go in any particular order. This is completely irrelevant to SARS-CoV-2.
"there is the question of the duration of a vax’ effectiveness. Polio vax was for a lifetime but will corona vax be for a lifetime or will a booster be needed every six months or so?"
Of the 4 coronaviruses where we know how long immunity lasts, it's 1-3 years on average. How long it lasts with SARS-CoV-2 is currently unknown. So what? Does it matter if you need a SARS shot every year or 3? Who cares? More irrelevant words.
"I hope that a vax is forthcoming because the next one of these the Chicoms release will be more like MERS than Covid 19."
Speculation and fearmongering. And irrelevant to SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
Your entire post is misinformation, fearmongering, and irrelevant.
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