Posted on 08/29/2020 4:39:03 PM PDT by missamyb
MORE CDC CHANGES 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 “This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid
That's 9,210 deaths
The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age” https://t.co/WEZxsfcnhW https://t.co/e2jPEgit1o
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities
Not entirely misleading. Somewhat misleading. More misleading than not?
I know of one person who has died “of COVID”. His symptoms were of a massive heart attack coming 10 years after a previous heart attack left with with a bit over 50% of his heart muscle and a prognosis of 5 more years of life.
Rushed to the hospital. Put on a ventilator. Tested for COVID. Positive, but had mentioned no symptoms to his wife nor had she seen any signs. Never regained consciousness. Death certificate says COVID killed him. Very likely a bad heart attack finished him off. Good guy, BTW.
But I agree that someone with bad diabetes who is 70 might well live for years, yet be finished off early by COVID - and that SHOULD be a COVID death. No one will ever know the truth. That would have required both honesty AND doing autopsies on all the dead. We had neither.
So the deaths from COVID are not what are reported, but neither are they “less than 10,000”.
Fewer
Because the distinction is that 94 percent of the recorded deaths were people that were old and/or had comorbidities.
Read the paragraph above the table under the heading ‘Comorbidities’. It says that 6% of deaths were coded solely as due to COVID-19. On average there are 2.6 comorbidities listed for COVID-19 deaths.
If a feather lands on a rickety house, and the house promptly collapses as a result, it doesn’t mean the feather is dangerous.
Bump for later.
I know that. But this lower number has never been released before. The assumption previously was that If a person died and was positive, they died of COVID. Assumption has changed now.
Russian collusion didn’t work, so the swamp went all in w Covid!!!!
So, this virus was no different than any other flu virus. The same people at risk in other flu viruses were at risk here - just like many at FR were saying back when this first started.
I wonder if some of that is to reduce/ignore any possibility of a lawsuit against the doctor or hospital?? Of course most of us know that there is that risk - and I suppose there is some sort of waiver that one signs prior to any major surgery?
I know just being put under with anesthesia there is a risk of damage or death. “Yeah - I don't care about the small print - just take care of these terrible sinus headaches!!”
My aunt died of Alzheimer’s. Well she had Covid 3 months b4 her death.
My cousin said her death certificate says she died of Covid.
Cousin said you
Wouldn’t even known she had covid, it’s as if she was asymptomatic but her DC says, covid????
Don’t say it can’t happen.
No it isn't. The poster is claiming that only people who have no other conditions have died of Covid19. That's obviously false. People can die of Covid19 even though they happen to be obese or diabetic, which are listed as just two of the possible comorbidities. The poster's assertion is obvious nonsense.
Pointing that out is not saying that someone dying from a car accident that also happened to be infected has died from Covid19. Those are two entirely different propositions.
GOT it, I see it now. I have no clue how I missed it - probably keeping an eye on the thread for more info while trying to find the info.
Thank you!
I didn't. But you can't claim that the only people that have died from Covid19 are people who have no other conditions at all. That's absurd, and that's what the poster of this thread is trying to tell people.
Dee, F?
Physicians received specific “guidelines” about what to assign as the cause of death. They were “ pro-covid”
Also, presumptive cases were added in with confirmed cases.
Presumptive cases have not been confirmed by testing.
When presumptive cases came back positive, they were added to the total AGAIN artificially inflating the number of cases.
So basically we don’t know how many have died from it, how many have it, how many have had it, or how many have been hospitalized for it. And this is in the worlds most technologically advanced country, but we should compare other countries’ worse stats to our bad stats, Got it.
Yeah, we get it.
If you look at the actual table of data, at line 230, you will see that 153,504 deaths are coded as COVID-19 (U071).
Of those deaths the majority apparently also have one or more comorbidities. That is exactly what you would expect for an infectious disease that causes the most deaths among the elderly.
When you study any disease it is relevant to consider how the presence of other illnesses or disabilities or even other factors like age affect the seriousness of the illness. So researchers look to see what other diseases are present. In some cases it can be hard to tell what factor is responsible for the death, and there isn't a simple formula for assigning which illness was responsible in every case.
It would be a mistake to conclude that a comorbidity caused the death by itself in most cases, although there may be some instances where a death caused by another illness got misreported as a COVID-19 death if the patient was positive for COVID-19 based on PCR testing at the time of their death. The opposite is also likely, where COVID-19 deaths were missed due to a lack of timely testing resources.
Neither effect alters the larger trends that are obvious in the data. COVID-19 is a serious illness, particularly for older people.
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