Posted on 08/04/2020 11:37:35 PM PDT by RandFan
Fascinating discussion between Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) following HBO's "The Swamp" (I didn't see it).
Gaetz & Buck want a Convention of the states to introduce federal term limits and a balanced budget amendment.
They also discuss a range of other topics regarding Congress and how things are done.
Click Excerpt Link then play the video (discussion starts about 5 mins in)...
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
Previously, he was District Attorney, and his claim to fame was getting one of the first 'hate crime' convictions.
(Guy found out 'she' was a he, and beat 'it' to death with a fire extenguisher.)
I don't trust Buck OR Gardner. Well, we won't have to worry about Gardner much longer. Say hello to Senator Chickenpooper.
Buck is a good guy I think you can trust him. He is friends with Massie and very conservative compared to some of his colleagues
Hate crime. How many crimes are committed with love in one's heart?
“This will open the door to turn the country full on socialism. Obama is just salivating and waiting to turn our limited government into a full-on proactive government that can force people to do his bidding.
Theyll destroy both the 1st and 2nd amendment right off the bat.”
Wrong! Either ignorant, or purposeful disinformation. Only thing that comes out are specific proposed amendments, that still must be ratified by 34 of the states. Nothing idiotic will get far. But term limits will save the country.
I read a review of The Swamp that said Gaetz is the star and Buck is boring. Massie is the third one.
The part that I don’t get is why would Leftist judges pay attention to a revised Constitution when they don’t even pay attention to the existing one?
Nope, doesn’t do any good. Like it or not, once the Left gets absolute power it’s OVER (meaning control of the White House and the Courts, only, Congress won’t matter as the courts will neuter them). The only options for conservatives at that point is to:
1) Submit, and watch the country die
2) Leave (although Americans will see far fewer options than they have now)
3) Civil war
So, we conservatives LOSE, regardless of any modifications to the Constitution...and we help our side lose by bickering and ‘making statements’, like voting Third Party because so-and-so doesn’t pass our ‘purity’ test, or because Roberts is a jerk.
We fight now, in the political arena, but if we lose, there WILL NOT be a tomorrow. The Democrats let us come back twice in recent years, they will NEVER, EVER, permit that again* - not with this bunch. And those on our side who cannot comprehend that, DESERVE all of the punishment that they will get, if they help the Democrats achieve that goal.
*and it’s easy for them to do. Legalize everyone, make PR and DC states, end enforcement of voting laws (via their judges), ballot harvesting, etc. Not only will we never win, we’ll never get close again (think California).
And where do you think Article V comes from? Do you honestly believe that only congress should be able to write amendments? Allowing the states to write amendments is quintessential federalism.
"The Constitution we currently have, is much more conservative than the electorate which would be deciding how to change it"
If you don't trust the current electorate, then it's already too late...
"NO! Dont risk our rights!... We have to keep the 2A!
If it wasn't for Article V, we would not have the 2nd Amendment, or the Constitution, for that matter.
Article V ping.
To Skywise: If Article V was the portal to socialism, why hasn’t the Left been screeching for a convention?
Ping to #29 and 30.
Exactly
Actually, 3/4.
Speaking of Lesser Evils, McConnell and McCarthy are conspicuously absent from the relief bill talks (Schumer, Pelosi, Trump Admin). Do THEY want Trump to fail also?
You seem to have forgotten what Obama and the Democrats have been talking about and expanding on for the last decade
You open the door for a rewrite of the constitution and youll have social justice and economic justice and racial justice shoved down your throat with positive liberties given to you by the government.
Article V is not some artificial construction outside the Constitution. It is the Constitution and was made for a time when power centralized in the District of Criminals . They failed to use it in time to stop the First Democrat-Republican War. We must not fail a second time.
That’s okay. I never expected you to check out the link.
Thats ok - I didnt expect you to defend your trolling either.
The fact remains that if you open up this can of worms we WILL get amendments along the lines of prohibition and economic redistribution.
That's only part of the problem. It's the people who count the votes that is the remainder of it.
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