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Could America split up?
The Week ^ | 7/31/2020 | Damon Linker

Posted on 08/02/2020 6:26:09 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

I often catch myself pondering exactly what it is that keeps our country together. What do we hold in common? What do we share? The word "republic" comes from the Latin res publica — literally "public thing." What is the single "thing" that is our public, political self? What binds us? Our national motto is E pluribus unum — out of many, one. What is this "one"? ....

I see so much anger around me — at the grocery store, while driving, on television, online. I feel so much of it myself: ... Rage that our reality-show-conman president would rather publicize absurd conspiracy theories, spread civic poison throughout the nation, and undermine confidence in our capacity to hold free and fair elections than fulfill the most elemental duties of his office. Rage that, although this president is down in the polls, two out of every five Americans continue to approve of how he's doing his job.

Who are these people? What do I share with them? Aristotle suggests that at its best, citizenship can be a form of friendship. But America is nowhere near its best right now. These people may be my fellow citizens, but they aren't my friends. Sometimes they feel like my enemies....

When I try to wrap my mind around what it would look like for political violence to break out and start spreading like brushfire through the country, I come up short. The historical Civil War was waged as a traditional military conflict over territory, with discrete battles, campaigns, victories, and surrenders. That's because the dispute mapped precisely onto the physical world. ...

But today? ... Do we hate each other? And if we do, what are our viable options as a polity?

(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...


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This person is not balanced, who sees anger everywhere (grocery store, driving on the road, easily manipulated by the media, and his own circle on online/social media).

He also Rage at any other who support the president, or have a different opinion than his own. He doesn't see people as individuals with independent thoughts, only categorized everybody else into The Left and The Right.

As for if/when CWII breaks out, geographical factor will still play a major role, "Subotai Bahadur" had plenty of thoughts on that.

1 posted on 08/02/2020 6:26:09 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Pure TDS. Let’s hope America splits up. I could then like this guy like I like a Brit.


2 posted on 08/02/2020 6:32:04 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Face it. It already has split up. What are the commonly held principles and values to form a unifying consensus? IMHO it was Roe v Wade that drove the nail that politically and culturally spintered America and has led to permanent divisions.


3 posted on 08/02/2020 6:37:18 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Sir Napsalot

If we have a civil conflict, it will be extremely bad. It won’t be regional this time. This is a purely ideological disagreement. People of all races, stripes, backgrounds, religions (or lack thereof) are going to go after each other. Tried to explain this to students. We are SO divided it will be neighbor on neighbor. We have no religious foundation to even give us a chance to form a cohesive nation. You will never know who the enemy is until (s)he is right next to you. This has all been coming for a long time.


4 posted on 08/02/2020 6:39:01 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“... Rage that our reality-show-conman president...”

That’s all that was needed to show this was a POS article...


5 posted on 08/02/2020 6:39:41 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The swamp is working hard to divide this country to divide and conquer.


6 posted on 08/02/2020 6:39:48 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

In the old days our differences were not so significant because most of government happened at the state and local level. Now everything is federalized. That’s a problem.


7 posted on 08/02/2020 6:40:24 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sir Napsalot
Kurt Schlicter, some great action books based on that premise:

People's Republic

Collapse

Indian Country

Wildfire

8 posted on 08/02/2020 6:40:55 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: allendale

Roe v Wade, Vietnam, and Communist influences in our colleges and universities.


9 posted on 08/02/2020 6:41:14 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Sir Napsalot
Very astute observation he makes here:

How has it come to this? The right feels like it's fighting for its very life against a left that's waging a scorched-earth campaign against it. As far as the right is concerned, progressives don't just want to win. They want to grind conservatives into the dust, humiliate them, force them to jump through public hoops, and confess their sins before the world. And the list of sins grows ever longer — on race, on religion, on sex, on gender. The goalposts always shift further. Each triumph for the left is followed by the opening of another front in a rolling cultural revolution. The right feels desperate — and understands every one of its own moves as an equal and opposite reaction to a prior offensive on the part of its political and cultural antagonists.

He is TOTALLY correct about the leftists not wanting just to win an election. Their aim is to destroy us. It is going to end up being a total war, genocide. When it is toward the end, or nearly over, some nation that hates us (probably China) will come in and take over and put a stop to all of it. Anyone who THOUGHT they were going to be in control is in for a rude awakening.

10 posted on 08/02/2020 6:46:02 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Anyone who sees anger everywhere is projecting.


11 posted on 08/02/2020 6:46:28 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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That’s all that was needed to show this was a POS article...

Respectfully, seriously, you are so wrong. This misguided, perverted whatever-he-is has opened a window and told the truth about the leftists intentions and we should be glad he did so. The article is very informative in spite of the erroneous description of President Trump.

12 posted on 08/02/2020 6:47:59 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: metmom
Anyone who sees anger everywhere is projecting.

I am very conservative and have studied people for YEARS. There is absolute rage everywhere. If one can not see that, one has completely blinded himself/herself.

13 posted on 08/02/2020 6:49:16 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Where is the “anger” coming from???...The left...
Where is the “hate” coming from???...The left...
Where is the “violence” coming from???...The left...
Where is the “rage” coming from???...The left...

Name one incident of rioting, burning, looting, true vandalism, theft,and assault that has happened with a conservative protest/movement???


14 posted on 08/02/2020 6:49:18 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: kosciusko51
Roe v Wade, Vietnam, and Communist influences in our colleges and universities.

And Bush v. Gore 2000

15 posted on 08/02/2020 6:50:18 AM PDT by KevinB (Quite literally, whatever the Left touches it ruins.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Not necessary. Put the EVIL, Face - Words - Deeds, back in their box. Pine, underground if necessary. Although that might be a waste of good earth. Identify, incarcerate, incinerate the SUPEREVIL. Azzes to ashes.


16 posted on 08/02/2020 6:52:17 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I do see it myself in places, but by his own admission, he feels it himself.

Not everyone who recognizes the anger is projecting but when you see it “everywhere “ then there’s a problem, just like the “everyone is wrong but me” crowd.

When “everyone “ around you is (fill in the blank), then the problem is not everyone else.


17 posted on 08/02/2020 6:53:41 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Sir Napsalot; All

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


18 posted on 08/02/2020 6:54:22 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I understand what you just said and, yes, I agree with it...I worded mine incorrectly...I probably should’ve said the article came from a POS person...


19 posted on 08/02/2020 6:54:24 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Sir Napsalot
The America/American-hating Democrat/Left Party and its followers (e.g., the media; academia, et al.) is doing everything it can to divide America and to maintain a high level of fear, distrust and depression up to the first Tuesday in November.

Following Trump's re-election the America/American-hating Democrat/Left Party and its followers will double-down on their sffort to keep America divided and to keep Americans at each others throats until the America/American-hating Democrat/Left Party regains control (perhaps as soon as 2024) at which time America will be "reunited" under the Democrat/Left's vision of a socialist utopia.

20 posted on 08/02/2020 6:54:59 AM PDT by glennaro (Prager: "The Left destroys everything it touches ... the Left creates nothing; it only destroys.")
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