Posted on 07/22/2020 9:09:36 AM PDT by Theoria
Archaeologists in Mexico found stone tools and other signs that people were living in North America 30,000 years ago, much earlier than widely believed, according to new research reshaping the debate over the origins of people in the Americas.
In a study reported Wednesday, scientists led by archaeologist Ciprian Ardelean at Mexico’s University of Zacatecas said that they had unearthed hundreds of unusual green limestone spear points, blades and other implements from a lofty cavern in the central Mexican highlands. For wandering hunter-gatherers, the cave served as a makeshift tool shed possibly beginning as early as about 33,000 years ago, the scientists said.
These new finds at Chiquihuite Cave, located almost 9,000 feet above sea level and about 400 miles northwest of Mexico City, are the latest in a series of discoveries across North and South America that have archaeologists pushing humankind’s entrance into the Americas deeper into antiquity. The discoveries in Mexico were published in the journal Nature.
“It is a fundamental change in our way of thinking,” said anthropologist Ruth Gruhn, an emeritus professor at the University of Alberta who helped pioneer studies of early migrations into North and South America. She wasn’t involved in the find. “Dates of around 30,000 years ago indicate that people have been on both continents twice as long as generally believed.”
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Not covid ping.
Ping.
OMG, what color were they?! THAT is all that matters.
Thanks.
Let me guess, they found a doll that talks?
Bet they were seeking shelter until the Rio Grande got lower so they could cross the river safely.
Bull puckey. I see they use the word “hints” which tell me this is pure conjecture, and a politicization of archeology. At best they came a few thousand years ago.
So, this is different than the crap they sifted through in Paisley, Oregon?
I’m going to find a cave and drop a load in it.
Then, I’ll pour BBs on top of it.
Ten thousand years from now, some scientist will look at it and say,
“Look at that! They ate round metal back then.”
These are not necessarily the ancestors of the people who were here when the Spanish and other Europeans arrived. I don’t think there’s anything political about it.
It’s very interesting and it would be interesting to see the artifacts.
Thanks Theoria and rdl6989.
LOL
Well played.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if there was already a population in the America’s that was then displaced by “Native” Americans that camp over the land bridge?
/laughs in Solutrean
These new finds at Chiquihuite Cave, located almost 9,000 feet above sea level and about 400 miles northwest of Mexico City...
So what were climatic conditions then?
Did elevations over a mile high not have glaciers? How cold would this height be in the middle of the last glaciation?
According to a GREAT book I have After the Ice: a global human history, 20.000–5.000 BC:
(you all should buy it!)
...[the] growth of ice sheets commenced 33,000 years ago and maximum coverage was between 26,500 years and 19–20,000 years ago, when deglaciation commenced in the Northern Hemisphere...
It is hard to find information on the specific Ice Age climate in Mexico...I found this on quora, however:
Just north of Mexico city at the same elevation is Atotonilco de Tula (altitude of 6,634 ft.), where they just unearthed a large trove of fossils. Sounds pretty cold to me, maybe even as cold the climate of present day Nova Scotia, Canada — some snow but not many swings in temperature in the former due to the southern exposure to sun and subtropics and the latter presently due to the ocean influence. But drier with the inland location.
“including mastodons, mammoths, camels, horses, deer and glyptodons, the armadillo's ancestor. Some bones may belong to bison, while others have not been identified.”
It actually sounds pretty nice, with lots of food to hunt.
Cheddar Mang.
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