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Operation Overlord: What Happened on D-Day and How Successful Were the Landings?
History Hit ^ | June 4, 2020 | History Hit

Posted on 07/21/2020 12:49:18 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie

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To: SMARTY

The younguns today who have nothing better to do than destroy anything they can reach.. and in exchange for a job.. pass out the freebies you are to pay for.

They need to face death getting off the boat.. and then spend the next year wading in cold mud, taking refuge in a fox hole, walking in wet boots that have holes.. seeing bodies of buddies.. not knowing what the next hour is like..facing death every day...

Then go and burn the flag.. take a knee...


21 posted on 07/21/2020 1:39:52 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: SunkenCiv
Some general said no plan survives first contact with the enemy. That's why you train so hard and develop the leaders who can cope when things go wrong.

The NCO's of Easy Company knew that when they mutinied against Captain Sobel. He was more or less competent in a training command, but would have gotten them killed in battle.

22 posted on 07/21/2020 2:12:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: frnewsjunkie

Omaha beach- The first wave got it hard. They dropped them off in waist deep water only to find out that the troops had to wade through the channels that were over their heads in some cases.

Other boats were zero’d in by the Germans with their MG42s and one burst, the whole group was gone. Those troops were fed a huge breakfast before they disembarked. The result was that most were sick. Besides that, they were WAAAYYYY over loaded. All they needed was ammo, water, and a few articles of food. Instead they had them put on some 60 plus pounds of equipment. A lot of them drowned, and couldnt run when they did get onshore. How the hell do you move after wading in water with all that weight on? I bet those packs weighed over 100 pounds after they managed to get onshore.

The bombing along the beaches did nearly nothing.

But, at Utah beach, things went rather well. TR Jr said, after they figured out they landed a little off from the zone..”Might as well start this right here.”


23 posted on 07/21/2020 2:15:05 PM PDT by crz
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To: colorado tanker
Some successes didn't survive first contact with the real enemy, the Press.

24 posted on 07/21/2020 2:17:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Yet another example of hack writing. The US alone had 39 divisions in combat by Christmas Day - not a total of 39 divisions for the overall Allied effort for the entire campaign.

Too bad nobody writing for publication on the internet has any idea what an editor is.

Plus, Overlord was strictly a planning operation. Not one unit, nor one landing location, nor date is mentioned in the Overlord planning documents. Neptune was the operational plan.


25 posted on 07/21/2020 2:19:08 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: frnewsjunkie

How successful? For a few decades, very successful.

Unfortunately the success ended.

Today’s Europe is covered in spreading cancer-sores of Islam-dominated no-go zones, where empty churches burn, women walk in fear, and Jews pack their bags


26 posted on 07/21/2020 2:20:43 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: SkyDancer

Actually, Berlin fell to the Russians.


27 posted on 07/21/2020 2:21:57 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: frnewsjunkie

snowflakes would be crying in their safe spaces.


28 posted on 07/21/2020 2:22:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Shark24
Without US support Russian could not have moved their army as well as they did.

We shipped them a thousands of trucks, jeeps, etc.

29 posted on 07/21/2020 2:24:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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By midnight on 6 June, 132,000 Allied forces had landed in France, while more than 2 million were eventually shipped there in total, comprising a total of 39 divisions.
The D-Day figure often includes 18,000 paratroopers who jumped in behind German lines before the troops landed on the beach. Rommel's plan for the "wall" differed a bit at Omaha beach -- I've read that when he saw the terrain, it reminded him of the landing spots the Allies had used in Sicily and Italy, and he beefed it up there.

30 posted on 07/21/2020 2:26:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I followed Homer J. Simpson's WWII +70 threads. I think I saw you on some of those, too.

It wasn't that long ago that the American press was patriotic and actually practiced journalism.

Has that ever changed. Was it Mike Wallace who said even if he knew about it he would not warn American troops of an impending ambush?

31 posted on 07/21/2020 2:31:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: crz

My father was an older GI and he went ashore at Normandy.. not the first load.. when he got off the boat and ashore, dead Americans littered the sand..they ran...were told to pick up weapons only.. could not stop to help anyone. . He spent the next year walking in cold mud. across France.. living in foxholes.. and surviving bullets..no baths.. no clean clothes.. no dry clothes ..just survival.


32 posted on 07/21/2020 2:31:16 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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Research Starters: US Military by the Numbers | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

US Military Personnel (1939-1945)
 

Year Army Navy Marines Coast Guard Total
1939 189,839 125,202 19,432   334,473
1940 269,023 160,997 28,345   458,365
1941 1,462,315 284,427 54,359   1,801,101
1942 3,075,608 640,570 142,613 56,716* 3,915,507
1943 6,994,472 1,741,750 308,523 151,167 9,195,912
1944 7,994,750 2,981,365 475,604 171,749 11,623,468
1945 8,267,958 3,380,817 474,680 85,783 12,209,238

*Coast Guard listed only as wartime strength


Profile of US Servicemen (1941-1945)


US Military Casualties in World War II
 

Branch Killed Wounded
Army and Air Force 318,274 565,861
Navy 62,614 37,778
Marines 24,511 68,207
Coast Guard 1,917 Unknown
TOTAL 407,316 671,278

Merchant Marine Casualties
 

Died as POWs 37
Dead 5,662
Missing/Presumed Dead 4,780
Killed at Sea 845

33 posted on 07/21/2020 2:40:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: colorado tanker
The only good embedding involves close range with a sidearm.

34 posted on 07/21/2020 2:41:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: vigilence

Yes. We let them. We got to the river Elbe and the Russians took over from there; in any case, we got there in 11 months.


35 posted on 07/21/2020 2:57:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: SkyDancer

You are correct. I believe the decision was Ike’s to allow the Russians to capture Berlin as we turned North East and South East to mop up and occupy although I have read that the decision was made at Yalta Conference.


36 posted on 07/21/2020 3:39:23 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: vigilence

I had an uncle who was in one of the first US companies into Berlin. He liked the German people much better than the Russian soldiers. He didn’t like being there at all.


37 posted on 07/21/2020 3:42:26 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: colorado tanker

Much of Easy Company’s members credited Captain Sobel with their becoming so tough & determined to win.


38 posted on 07/21/2020 3:56:00 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: frnewsjunkie

God bless your father & his brothers in arms. My Dad was in the South Pacific. Everything was totally different there. And not in a good way.


39 posted on 07/21/2020 4:00:28 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: colorado tanker
It wasn't that long ago that the American press was patriotic and actually practiced journalism.
Respectfully disagree.

The main reason for the positive reporting was because Hitler attacked Uncle Joe.

40 posted on 07/21/2020 4:08:41 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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