Posted on 07/15/2020 7:45:46 PM PDT by RandFan
Sen. Ted Cruz said the future of conservatism after President Trump leaves office can be both populist and libertarian.
The Texas Republican weighed on ideological debates among conservatives, saying the future of conservative politics can be a combination of libertarian beliefs and populism during a Tuesday interview with the Washington Examiner about his podcast, The Verdict, co-hosted by conservative commentator Michael Knowles.
"I think properly understood, those concepts are complementary, and they're not antagonistic. So I am a conservative, an unabashed conservative. I'm also a populist. I am deeply a populist," Cruz began. "And I also have deep libertarian principles. Look, if you're protecting liberty, that is the foundation of our country. That is the foundation of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. When it comes to populism, I think the most fundamental and important shifts in the last decade in politics is that Republicans have become the party of the working class."
The idea of conservatism "conserving" libertarian beliefs, or classical liberalism, has recently been challenged by some writers. Sohrab Ahmari, a conservative opinion editor for the New York Post, advocated for a "common good" conservatism in May 2019. In an opinion piece for religious publication First Things, he wrote, "Here is the problem: The movement we are up against prizes autonomy above all, too; indeed, its ultimate aim is to secure for the individual will the widest possible berth to define what is true and good and beautiful, against the authority of tradition."
"There's some people who want to use the word populism to say, 'Well, we should just have socialism.' No, socialism is not populism. That's not good for the workers. Socialism is tyranny of government. Every socialist government across the globe has produced poverty and misery and suffering and death," Cruz said.
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With a lot of conservatism mixed in I’d hope.
Libertarian?
I just learned this evening that Libertarians support Ranked Choice Voting. k.... interesting.
I’m VERY opposed to RCV.
The only way he can be President is if it’s also anti-Constitutional
There is a difference between ‘Libertarians’ (in that party) and ‘libertarians’ who are not ..
Populist and libertarian with conservatism works for me.
No it isnt.
Its conservatism. By its definitional nature its not libertarianism or populism. How you defend it may vary but what it is isnt populism or libertarianism. By definition.
You mean an Insurrection and a Revolution?
I don’t think he’s planning either...
I know it was you once I read the thread title :-)
We certainly won’t agree on everything but I get a kick out of your enthusiasm. I was like that once, I just don’t remember the year anymore :-)
Libertarian and populist and conservative all mean different things or else they wouldn’t have different words for them :-)
But there are enough causes in common to vote as a unit and kick out Democrats
Who are really nothing more than Communists at this point
Capital L libertarians aren’t libertarian.
They’re just weirdo pot heads.
I’m a leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone atarian.
Especially if you work for the government
The future of conservatism, is in a separate country, within the area now occupied by what is now the U.S.A.
FACT is that, there are two main groups of people living in the U.S. and they’ll never get along, much less run a country together.
So, eventually, there will have to be a split of the country. Liberals/communists/socialists/progressives/democrats in one part of the split, and conservatives/republicans/libertarians on the other part of the split. The left-wing side will cast aside the constitution which they hated so much, while the right side will keep the constitution of the original founders, but with the stipulation that, communism/socialism won’t be allowed
We all know that the far-left side won’t survive, since socialism/communism has never worked, anywhere or anytime it’s been tried The right side can work easily, as has been demonstrated time and time again, with such presidents as Reagan and Trump.
The two sides will never agree on most issues, and we have to face reality, sooner or later.
Another usurpation.
Cubans born in Canada are not naturally Americans.
Well, there’s libertarian and Libertarian. I consider myself a small-l libertarian because the Libertarian Party is almost as bat$#!+ as the Democrats.
That’s like a blind man grabbing the tail of an elephant and declaring that an elephant is just like a snake.
You can’t just grab some random, irrelevant crap about any political ideology and say the entire ideology sucks.
Lots of good people in the LP ... they have done some good work in various states (yes, including legalizing weed ... )
But federally they can’t do much ...they need to be in the GOP
I wouldn’t go that far ...
Populism and libertarianism aren’t compatible. Cruz is trying to rename his pre-Trump platform and erasure us it’s something different
Libertarians say leave big tech alone because private property
Populists say rein in big tech to ensure fairness and serve the public
You can’t marry those two opposites
How did Susan Collins not have a primary challenger in Maine? She voted to impeach Trump.
I wonder sometimes about how that would work.
For example, supposed we all peacefully decided that we will split into a Liberal States of America, and then the Conservative States of America.
How does a geographic split happen?
Every liberal state has conservatives living within its borders.
And the most conservative states have liberal pockets within them.
Bottom line is that a hundred million people or more, might have to move, to move out of a state which will be part of the “wrong” country, from their point of view.
Or could some states secede from the Union entirely, and become independent countries?
I think what is important is the over riding principles...I am mainly conservative. I have a libertarian streak. I find that a populist can be an ally but there is no over riding principle for populism so it needs guidance and that is a combination of conservatism and libertarian principles with populism being a motivator not a guiding principle.
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