Posted on 07/14/2020 8:09:18 AM PDT by Perseverando
In 1781, 27-year-old King Louis XVI of France sent his navy and troops to help America gain independence from Britain.
In return, France gained very little, except an enormous amount of debt.
On the verge of financial collapse, France then experienced a terrible famine in 1788.
The people blamed the King.
Anti-monarchists referred to Queen Marie Antoinette as Madame Déficit.
According to Jean-Jacques Rousseau, when she was told the people did not have bread, her reply was:
"Let them eat cake."
On July 14, 1789, an anarchist mob went through the streets of Paris and stormed the the Bastille Fortress which had been used as the police prison.
The king, endeavoring to be an enlightened monarch, did not forcibly respond.
Sadly, the more he showed benevolence to the unruly rioters the more they were embolden to commit violence.
On October 5, 1789, in what started as a peaceful Women's March demanding bread, escalated in a mob surrounding the King's Palace at Versailles.
The Marquis de Lafayette vainly attempted to moderate the crowd, who had found sympathy with disgruntled soldiers.
Finding an unguarded door, rioters barged in.
Two guards were killed, with one's head placed on a pike. The Queen fled through a secret passage to the King's chamber.
With the mob now numbering 60,000, the King and Queen were escorted back to Paris, where they became captives in the Royal residence called the Tuileries.
On June 20, 1791, the Royal family tried escaping by carriage at night, and almost made it out of France, but the king's face was recognized from being on a note of French currency.
One again, they were captives in the Tuileries.
Left-wing "Jacobin Club" agitators, most notably Maximilien Robespierre, whipped the city
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Wrong again.
Who wrote the Malleus Maleficarum?
I have a number of books on the subject on my bookshelf with one on the way about the Spanish Inquisition.
Again I say that what we are experiencing in not mass execution of the globalist elites at the hands of the common people, this is a deliberate attempt to kill populism and put the common people “in their place.”
This is the Inquisition, not the French Revolution.
It will have the same end as the French Revolution - death.
Not for the elites. No kings, queens, princes, princesses. No oligarchs, no spawn of same, just people like a former police chief working security, or a 21 year old mom, a couple of black men, one named George Floyd, a number of street cops, the poor guy shot in the head in his truck, the protestor dragged to death, an on and on. Common people will be killed, globalist elites will get richer. At some point if they get their way the country will be saddled with debt and ridden into a fire sale. The common people will lose everything. The globalists will pick up all of our assets for pennies on the dollar. Pray that doesn’t happen.
You know it was actually the common people who suffered even more than the elites during the French Revolution, right? For goodness sakes, more peasants were massacred via guillotine than actual aristocrats (by percentages, peasants killed by guillotine marked 30%, while aristocrats only marked 8%). Don’t believe me? Read this: https://web.archive.org/web/20050309031846/https://culturewars.com/CultureWars/Archives/Fidelity_archives/parricide.html
And who says the elites were not in charge of the French Revolution? Sure, King Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette were obviously not in charge of the revolution nor did they even want it. But Citizen Phillipe, the King’s brother, wanted it, and heck, one of the more radical members of the revolution was in fact one of the elites: Marquis de Sade. And let’s not forget about how Voltaire, Diderot, and Rousseau had played a HUGE role in orchestrating that revolution, and they were deemed the elites of society at the time.
To put it simply, even IF what you say about the Inquisition was actually true (which I doubt), the French Revolution wasn’t much better, and if anything was a whole lot worse even if it technically wasn’t an oligarchy.
The aristocrats were executed during the French Revolution. Some were smuggled out, and nobody leaves land, houses, wealth, etc behind without a darned good reason.
Here, we have the agenda of the globalist elite being carried out by BLM. Their platform includes open borders, which is great for driving down wages well past living wage territory. This results in the government picking up the tab for food stamps, healthcare, housing, childcare, for working people who can’t afford to live on what they are paid. This lowers payroll and increases profits.
So protestors give big splashy photo ops for the narrative that America is a terrible place to invest and manufacture, which limits job opportunities for people who live here, particularly in the cities.
The only violence against elites is against the statues of dead ones. There too though, the effect is on the living, and that effect is one more step toward erasing an inconvenient past, where people really did rise up against their oppressors, and win.
It’s the inquisition. This is an attempt to slap us back down. There has been growing populism popping up in all sorts of inconvenient places and the powers that be want things back the way they were, and that doesn’t end well for the workers.
There are other examples of peasant movements being put down through divide and conquer and the use of terrorism. There are also examples of the peasants language being controlled in order to try to control their minds. I’m really not sure why you are so bent on this not being the Inquisition, but maybe there are other examples in history. It’s just that there is a component of this that involves an uncritical faith, and religion fulfills that criteria. The Communist takeovers never maintain that for too long. With the British empire you had the globalism and the same disdain for the common people in the colonies. The Brits didn’t leave a mess like the Continental types did in their colonies, and I suspect our globalists dreams will turn to ashes as they are enabling the new Nazis in the form of Xi and the CCP under him. So I guess there’s another historical precedent, though we are told we are horrible people if we talk about Nazis. The Weimar Republic was going through all sorts of shenanigans, trying to change the government so that they could regain power. That’s happening with the Democrats trying to get rid of the electoral system or invent new states in areas friendly to that party so they can get more senators, among other things. Thing is that I don’t think we’re Germany in this, though the Dems are trying to manipulate our system to regain power, I think we’re more like Poland.
If you think the French Revolution is an example of populism, then forget it. And I never said that the aristocrats were never killed during the French Revolution. Obviously, there were several that were killed, but going by the statistical figures, only 8% were killed by the Guillotine, while 30% were actually those of the Peasant class, and last I checked, 30% is MORE than 8%, and thus would make very clear that if anything the common people suffered even MORE than the aristocracy/elites.
Besides, the French Revolution targeted the Vendee for extermination, which is pretty much the epitome of the “common people” they claimed to be representing, all because they kept their faith in king and god (and ironically, the Vendee were far closer to the American Minutemen than the actual French Revolutionaries were). Heck, the French Revolution was ALSO for open borders as well, considering that part of the reason they created their Grand Army of the Republic was specifically to EXPORT the French Revolution, and most of the heads of that revolution outright HATED the concept of national sovereignty. Heck, the French Revolution was what inspired Marx and Lenin, both really huge globalists. So, no, if anything, the French Revolution is closer to globalist crap more than the Inquisition was. And by your logic, God’s also against populism and the common people as well due to outright incinerating him and his followers when he dared to even suggest allowing for populism: https://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2020/06/18/clergy/korah-democracy-divine-aristocracy-israel/
The French Revolution is widely acknowledged to have been a populist movement. The aristocracy was globalist, the common people got sick and tired of all the corruption, theft, and incompetence.
“The People, No: A brief history of anti-populism” by Thomas Frank looks like it addresses the problem we have here in populism being defined as a xenophobic movement of anti-science hayseeds by the elites who are trying to hang onto power by defining populism as David Duke rather than Martin Luther King. I feel guilty about buying yet another book when there are so many others I have to read, but it’s certainly timely.
Ah, yeah, just because some leftist scholars claim it’s for the people doesn’t mean it’s truly populist. Especially when you consider that those same “populists” tried to outright commit genocide against the Vendee simply because they retained loyalty to the Crown and more importantly to God, despite Vendee literally being the embodiment of populism. People also said the Cuban Revolution, Mao’s Revolution, and Lenin’s Revolution were also populist by nature. Guess what, those were complete disasters with the ACTUAL people, not demagogue Marxists, suffering immensely from said “revolutions.”
And most of those so-called “populists” in the Jacobins probably used corruption as an excuse to cause carnage that they were planning anyways. In fact, John Adams even said they were monsters, and accurately pinned them as ultimately not being in france’s best interests, as did Alexander Hamilton and even George Washington. And no, the Jacobins were the ones who were globalists. Or have you forgotten that their first act with the French Army was an attempt to export the Revolution abroad and force the world to embrace “Liberty, Equality, and Brotherhood.” That’s even part of the reason why Vendee refused and got slaughtered by them. And Voltaire and Diderot ALSO were globalists, wanted to destroy Christianity throughout the World, and even had fellow conspirators in Prussia via Frederick the Great.
You said: “ If you think the French Revolution is an example of populism, then forget it.”
I said: “ The French Revolution is widely regarded as having been a populist movement.”
So this is me forgetting it rather than entering a very overthought space with you to try to get you to see the forest for the trees.
Yeah, and like I said, Lenin and Mao’s revolutions were also widely regarded as being a populist movement. Look what happened there: People being butchered. The French Revolution is no different. Heck, Lenin and Marx even USED the Jacobins actions as a blueprint for their revolutions, and Mao did indirectly as well.
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