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Polynesians, Native Americans made contact before European arrival, genetic study finds
phys.org ^ | July 8, 2020 | Stanford University Medical Center

Posted on 07/08/2020 9:31:46 AM PDT by rdl6989

Through deep genetic analyses, Stanford Medicine scientists and their collaborators have found conclusive scientific evidence of contact between ancient Polynesians and Native Americans from the region that is now Colombia—something that's been hotly contested in the historic and archaeological world for decades.

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Before the study brought scientific evidence to the debate, the idea that Native Americans and Polynesians had crossed paths originated from a complex—both in its structure and origins—carbohydrate: the sweet potato. It turns out the sweet potato, which was originally domesticated in South and Central America, has also been known to grow in one other place prior to European contact. That place is known as Oceania, which consists of many islands, including Polynesia.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: agriculture; ancientnavigation; centralamerica; colombia; columbia; dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; navigation; oceania; polynesians; prehistory; southamerica; sweetpotato; thorheyerdahl; trade; travel
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To: married21
the book Kon Tik

The 1953 Original Film is on Amazon Prime - It's very good

21 posted on 07/08/2020 9:58:40 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: rdl6989

Makes a big deal about genetics but only in the most general sense - no specific sets of genes are mentioned.

Title leads one to believe they ae talking about North Americans tribes, but is only relevant to peoples from Mexico south.

BS study. Send more sweet potatoes


22 posted on 07/08/2020 10:06:33 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: 11th_VA; Varda

Thanks For your posts. Interesting.


23 posted on 07/08/2020 10:16:29 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: rdl6989

Watson and Crick, what have you done?! All those nice assumptions by tenured academics, overturned by DNA!

(Yes, I know that there are many others who participated in the DNA discoveries, but their’s are the names on the prize!)


24 posted on 07/08/2020 10:23:35 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: malach

One article I read a few years ago suggested sweet potatoes washed into the Pacific during storms and drifted to the islands. I supposed it is possible.


26 posted on 07/08/2020 10:36:03 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: married21
Kon-Tiki 1950 film - ORIGINAL VERSION is free on Youtube
27 posted on 07/08/2020 10:45:10 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: rdl6989
It turns out the sweet potato, which was originally domesticated in South and Central America, has also been known to grow in one other place prior to European contact. That place is known as Oceania ...

Maybe it was carried there by sparrows ...

28 posted on 07/08/2020 10:48:07 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: rdl6989

Indigenous North Americans came from the north... Indigenous South Americans came from the south... Kind of makes sense... Somewhere in the middle, likely southern Mexico they met up.


29 posted on 07/08/2020 10:51:24 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: 11th_VA

What kind of sparrow?


30 posted on 07/08/2020 10:56:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: rdl6989

It isn’t true that polynesia was first settled in 1200 AD, it was much, much earlier.

1200 isn’t a bad guess for when the 2nd wave of conquests came from raiatea, bora bora, tahiti. Wouldn’t surprise me if they also managed to send a war canoe to south america, they reached new zealand and hawaii


32 posted on 07/08/2020 11:01:01 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: rdl6989

‘”We found identical-by-descent segments of Native American ancestry across several Polynesian islands,” Ioannidis said. “It was conclusive evidence that there was a single shared contact event.” In other words, Polynesians and Native Americans met at one point in history, and during that time people from the two cultures produced children with both Native American and Polynesian DNA. ‘

This means that if the Polynesians visited Columbia, then they took women back with them or stayed long enough to have children by Columbians and then took the children back to Polynesia.

OTOH, if the Columbians visited Polynesia, no round trip is required to explain these data.


33 posted on 07/08/2020 11:17:25 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: C19fan
Madagascar was helped settled by a small group of Malagasy[Indonesian] who made the 5000 mile trip around the 1200 ad timeline. The Ocean currents always leads to new stuff.
34 posted on 07/08/2020 11:24:07 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: frank ballenger

Since then they’ve found a system of moving the things more easily...by rocking them. It explains the peculiar shape of the base as well.


35 posted on 07/08/2020 11:33:02 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Red Badger

they bumped into each other.


36 posted on 07/08/2020 11:43:15 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: rdl6989

But, the key question.....who had the land first?


37 posted on 07/08/2020 11:44:40 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Over and over and over.............


38 posted on 07/08/2020 11:45:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: rdl6989

Uh, oh - Hagoth’s descendants.


39 posted on 07/08/2020 11:46:33 AM PDT by Raymond Pamintuan
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To: rdl6989

No, It isn’t possib!e. Anyone that has raised sweet potatoes knows that they are propagated by slips and that salt water would kill the slips. The only way possib!e is humans carrying the tuber to the islands.


40 posted on 07/08/2020 12:05:55 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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