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The GNU Project is Bleeding Into Microsoft
TechRights ^ | 29 June 2020 | Thomas Grzybowski

Posted on 06/30/2020 5:30:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce

WITHIN the conduct of human endeavors we usually think of Work in the categories of various forms of interpersonal reporting hierarchies, even if sometimes modified into something of a web. You can see these hierarchies when we discuss politics or corporate structures. Yet these paths of influence can often cross nominal boundaries, such as state or national boundaries, or corporate boundaries. Sometimes we can see the boundaries breaking down, with new inter-and-intra-community structures forming. In this flux I see the the GNU Project bleeding into Microsoft.

There are a number of empirical signs of the breakdown of boundaries between Free Software and Microsoft, such as the “Windows Subsystem for Linux”, but most insidious is the movement of GNU development processes onto the Microsoft-hosted platform, GitHub.

If one goes to the GNU Home site where they list their official packages there are some alarming observations to be made:

When you click on: https://gnu.org/software/nana/
Where you actually end up is: https://github.com/pjmaker/nana/

I find this deceptive and very concerning. For a number of important reasons, hosting GNU development on a proprietary Microsoft platform should be verboten. And for users to be programatically redirected away from the GNU site to the Microsoft site is ethically criminal, and foreboding institutional death.

Now try these other GNU projects:

https://gnu.org/software/macchanger

https://gnu.org/software/jwhois

https://gnu.org/software/fribidi

https://gnu.org/software/httptunnel

https://gnu.org/software/which/

https://gnu.org/software/guile-dbi

A sad situation. Interestingly, most of these redirections seem to have made fairly recently, not long after Richard Stallman was ousted.

And then there are other disturbing development projects – if you take a look: GNU Bison consistently sees quite a lot of very current activity on GitHub (https://github.com/akimd/bison); and Flex, an important component of GNU Bison, is located entirely GitHub, provided under a BSD license.

https://gnu.org/software/flex/flex.html –> https://github.com/westes/flex ; https://github.com/westes/flex/blob/master/README.md .

GNU Radio, also a GNU project, goes a step further and conducts the major parts of its development cycle on GitHub. It’s not clear that they use the GNU sites for anything other than mirrors.

https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/

https://github.com/gnuradio/gr-dpd/

https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/pulls/

https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/issues/

The growth and attraction of GitHub is based upon a number of factors, especially the social nature of the software development environment. Microsoft primes the pump for a “network effect” through the GitHub project sponsorship program:

https://help.github.com/en/github/supporting-the-open-source-community-with-github-sponsors/about-github-sponsors

Monetary grants given to projects make moving there more attractive, and the monies can be used by the project leader to make the project more attractive to developers. Because the Free and Open Source Software world is interconnected, as each particular migration or action takes place, the effects connect to the community on a global scale. As more and more developers and users become focused towards Microsoft GitHub, the resources and interfaces there become increasingly difficult to resist depending upon, and the paths or streams of community influence become too strong. The GNU Project is being swept away in a river of powerful influences.

Some folks have seen the process described above as a “loss of GNU integrity”, and it is that. But a large part of this “loss of integrity” is simply a lack of desire to resist competition, or even recognize the nature of the threat. Most importantly and most immediately the very core machinery of the Free Software Movement is being undermined and swept away by strong currents into a Microsoft-controlled domain: github.com


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: gnu; microsoft
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1 posted on 06/30/2020 5:30:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; SW6906; ...

Tech Ping


2 posted on 06/30/2020 5:30:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
?


3 posted on 06/30/2020 5:31:53 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: ShadowAce

What’s GNU?..........................


4 posted on 06/30/2020 5:33:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: Red Badger
What’s GNU?..........................

Not much. What's GNU with you?

5 posted on 06/30/2020 5:37:13 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

I knew somebody would do that!................


6 posted on 06/30/2020 5:44:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: EEGator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Project


7 posted on 06/30/2020 5:46:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: Red Badger
The acronym stands for "GNU's Not Unix". It's a recursive acronym.

It's the project Stallman started to created a system very much like Unix, but not steal any code.

It's basically Free software--free as in speech.

8 posted on 06/30/2020 5:46:47 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Richard Stallman was ousted?! That’s like getting rid of George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. Stallman was a way left lefty, too.


9 posted on 06/30/2020 5:47:13 AM PDT by plsvn
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To: ShadowAce
There are a number of empirical signs of the breakdown of boundaries between Free Software and Microsoft, such as the “Windows Subsystem for Linux”, but most insidious is the movement of GNU development processes onto the Microsoft-hosted platform, GitHub.

HELLO!!!--------HELLO!--------- What about systemd?

10 posted on 06/30/2020 5:47:48 AM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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To: ShadowAce; Red Badger

Also—GNU and the Linux kernel combine to form the various “Linux distos” like Ubuntu, Red Hat, Mint, etc.


11 posted on 06/30/2020 5:50:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: plsvn

Stallman was cancelled as an sensitivity challenged old white guy.


12 posted on 06/30/2020 5:51:42 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: Red Badger

It’s a female wildebeest.


13 posted on 06/30/2020 5:54:36 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: ShadowAce
I find this deceptive and very concerning. For a number of important reasons, hosting GNU development on a proprietary Microsoft platform should be verboten.

I wish the author would have stated the reasons more fully, rather than some vague insinuations.

14 posted on 06/30/2020 5:55:05 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Yeah—that’s the weak point of his article. I thought about not posting it because of that, actually.


15 posted on 06/30/2020 5:57:10 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: The Free Engineer
Stallman was cancelled as an sensitivity challenged old white guy.

Sensitivity challenged? That's not the Stallman I read about over the years!

BTW, I still use his EMACS editor. Never took to vi. EMACS just always made sense to me as a particularly useful text editor.

16 posted on 06/30/2020 6:00:45 AM PDT by plsvn
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To: kosciusko51; ShadowAce
"I wish the author would have stated the reasons more fully, rather than some vague insinuations."
If all the GNU (Free, open) posts first go through Micr$oft) then the harvesting and patenting by M$oft gives them expert first in line overviews of good ideas for them to monetize and restrict to their products would be my guess.

With a tweak here and there, voila a new patent that M$oft has the resources to beat down any independent programmer and his original programming.

That's my take.

17 posted on 06/30/2020 6:08:26 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: ShadowAce
I understand his “concern,” but the licenses still say everything is owned by the effort and anyone can host the code anywhere they want and the code is freely available to all.

I don’t like Microsoft, but, frankly, I never like Stallman.

I believe the best license is the old Borland license for commercial software and BSD for the rest.

The problems the GNU/GPL crud brought wasn’t worth anything over what BSD licenses already had out there. With BSD, companies don’t have to freak over a developer making changes to libraries or the like.

When I was younger, I maintained my computer club’s public domain software library. Public domain should be equal to BSD. Stallman perverted it with socialist ideals, saying that you owed your changes/work to everyone else and “we’ll sue you if you don’t give them.”

18 posted on 06/30/2020 6:15:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ShadowAce

I use MBED which uses Github. It’s an embedded software/hardware development site. I have my source code up there and compile and link using their tools in their servers.

It works ok. Why should I care about an affiliation with Microsoft?

Why do I need to care about GNU?


19 posted on 06/30/2020 6:16:13 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Tunehead54

You may be right, but the author left it for our imaginations rather than say it.


20 posted on 06/30/2020 6:17:28 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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