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Apple-designed ARM-based Macs to be announced at WWDC
MacDailyNews ^ | Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:07 am | MacDailyNews staff

Posted on 06/09/2020 12:36:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Apple is preparing to announce a shift to its own Apple-designed ARM-based main processors in Mac computers, replacing chips from Intel, as early as this month at WWDC 2020 which begins on June 22nd, Bloomberg News reports, citing “people familiar with the plans.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; arm; mac
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Keep in mind, this is merely a rumor at this point based on anonymous sources. Apple itself has made no announcement about this and will not until the start of the on-line WWDC in the third week in June.
1 posted on 06/09/2020 12:36:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; AbolishCSEU; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
This is, at this point, merely an unsubstantiated rumor. Apple has not made any announcement stating this. It’s based on anonymous sources. If true, it’s not going to likely happen with models before 2022, and then starting with the lower end MacBooks and iMacs. —PING!


Apple Macs with A Series Processors? Maybe.
PING!

If you want on or off the Apple/Mac/iOS Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 06/09/2020 12:40:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot)
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To: Swordmaker

I DO know Apple has had a big design team on 7nm working on something for years and I don’t think its a chipset or a phone.


3 posted on 06/09/2020 12:41:04 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Battman

Thanks to Freeper Battman for the heads up to look for this.


4 posted on 06/09/2020 12:41:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot)
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To: Swordmaker

Did Apple use ARM chips before they moved to Intel?


5 posted on 06/09/2020 12:41:44 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Swordmaker

The ARM ... inspired when Acorn saw that William Mensch and his sister Katherine could create the 65816 with out a big investment.

In a way, Apple may be coming full circle.


6 posted on 06/09/2020 12:41:49 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: jimtorr

No, they used PowerPC chips immediately before Intel but made the mistake of teaming with IBM for the G5. The problem was never that IBM didn’t design powerful chips but that the company didn’t have the best history building powerful chips that didn’t use a lot of wattage.

Had Apple stuck with Motorola for the “G5” they might have done better.

Now, Apple did use an ARM in the Newton ... /showing age


7 posted on 06/09/2020 12:47:18 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Zathras

When I got out of lithography we were building steppers
in production at 1 um. How things have changed.


8 posted on 06/09/2020 12:49:45 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Zathras
I DO know Apple has had a big design team on 7nm working on something for years and I don’t think its a chipset or a phone

It actually is a 7nm for the new iPhone and iPad. It’s already in production.

TSMC secures government subsidies and picks site for $12 billion U.S. plant
Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:24 am

TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd.) has secured government subsidies for a planned $12 billion U.S. chip plant to be built in Arizona. The new plant is designed to allay U.S. national security concerns and shift high-tech manufacturing to America.


TSMC secures government subsidies and picks site for $12 billion U.S. plant

Debby Wu for Bloomberg:

TSMC, the main chipmaker to Apple Inc. and Huawei Technologies Co., has picked a site for the future plant and both federal and state governments have agreed to help make up for the higher cost of fabricating semiconductors in the U.S., Chairman Mark Liu told reporters Tuesday. Negotiations continue over the specifics of those incentives, he said without elaborating or identifying the site’s location.

The decision to situate a plant in Arizona came after White House officials warned about the threat inherent in having much of the world’s electronics made outside of the U.S. TSMC had negotiated a deal with the administration to create American jobs and produce sensitive components domestically for national security reasons. It announced the project just before Washington leveled new restrictions on the sale of chips to Huawei, seeking to contain one of TSMC’s largest customers.

TSMC has set aside land adjacent to its selected plot and hopes to convince its own suppliers to set up operations in the vicinity over time, Liu added.

MacDailyNews Note: According to various reports, the location of TSMC’s new $12 billion U.S. plant will be in the Phoenix area.


9 posted on 06/09/2020 12:50:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot)
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To: sasquatch

You should see the crazy stuff on 7nm.
I’m starting to look at 5nm and it is really crazy.


10 posted on 06/09/2020 12:51:57 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Rurudyne
I always thought Motorola built a better CPU than Intel did.

If I remember correctly the Amiga with the 68000 CPU was the first “PC” to run 32 bit code.

11 posted on 06/09/2020 12:52:10 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: jimtorr

Apple initially looked at processors such as those from MIPS Technologies, Sun, and Acorn Computers. The Acorn ARM architecture RISC processors powered the 1993 Apple Newton, 2001 iPod, and 2007 iPhone.


12 posted on 06/09/2020 12:52:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Swordmaker

What most people don’t know is there are process and design differences between low power and high power.
Its somewhat the same process but vastly different in complexity.

Apple has not yet came out with a high power design on any process but I suspect they will soon.

If nothing else, they really have no server design platform and that would be a good use of their resources.
Server Farms need to be low power and fast.


13 posted on 06/09/2020 12:56:50 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: amigatec

Yes. The 68000 had a 32-bit ALU with a 16-bit external memory bus.

It had been used for years in work stations before it appeared in the Lisa, and subsequently the Amiga, Mac, Atari ST and others.


14 posted on 06/09/2020 12:57:19 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Swordmaker

TSMC deal sort of sounds like the Wisconsin Foxconn deal which ended up being much different and smaller than originally planed - mainly because suppliers like Corning decided not to move


15 posted on 06/09/2020 12:58:22 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turnWhen is the next election and can any republican stan)
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To: Rurudyne

Before the PowerPC they used 68000. Not sure of what to make of the ARM processor. I was thinking Apple was going to make their own custom processor.

I would see how the ARM preforms against the Intel Macbooks. Linux runs very well on the Rasberry Pi.


16 posted on 06/09/2020 12:58:43 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Swordmaker

AAPL up 10 on rumor


17 posted on 06/09/2020 12:59:12 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turnWhen is the next election and can any republican stan)
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To: Zathras

Yep.

That said I wish I had the resources to play around with the Power9 based Talon desktops....


18 posted on 06/09/2020 12:59:35 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Zathras

Oh and I don’t work for Apple or know anyone who works there.
In my industry, you kind of know what is going on based on who they are hiring.


19 posted on 06/09/2020 12:59:47 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Swordmaker
The Commodore 64 used the 6510 CPU with a speed of 1 Mhz, the IBM PC used the 8088 CPU with a speed of 4.77 Mhz.

If I remember correctly, In side by side tests the Commodore was only about half as slow as the IBM, because it had better through put.

20 posted on 06/09/2020 1:00:34 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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