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US Seized Chinese-Built Transformer – But Nobody Knows Why
I.T. Wire ^ | 05/28/20 | Sam Varghese

Posted on 05/28/2020 5:34:56 AM PDT by Enlightened1

US Federal Government authorities seized a 226-tonne electricity transformer made by Chinese company Jiangsu Huapeng Transformer Company at Houston port last summer and took it to Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, for unspecified reasons, The Wall Street Journal reports.

The lab, which is operated by Honeywell International, handles contract work for the US Energy Department associated with threats to national security, the report added.

A US representative of the company, Jim Cai, told the newspaper that it had sold more than 7000 such transformers in the past two decades to numerous international customers.

Cai was unaware of what had happened to the transformer until he was asked for comment by the WSJ.

US President Donald Trump on 1 May signed an executive order for the DoE to find and ban devices from the power grid made by foreign countries that were considered a threat to national security.

report in Politico said Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette had recently played down concerns from industry that new clean energy projects could be inconvenienced by the order.

The language in the order is said to be so all-encompassing and covering nearly 20 types of gear that developers fear they may have to delay projects, anticipating that components ordered from abroad could be banned.

The seized transformer was meant for the Western Area Power Administration for use in its Ault substation. Apart from WAPA, the Chinese firm has also sold units to American customers the New York Power Authority, EDF Renewables, B.C. Hydro and MidAmerican Energy.

The report said WAPA fed wholesale electricity to power stations in 15 states in the western and central US.

Transformers do not contain software-based control systems and are passive devices, though recent equipment may contain diagnostic electronics, the WSJ said.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: china; controlled; transformes
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To: Enlightened1
Transformers do not contain software-based control systems and are passive devices,

Lots can be learned just by listening in on the current. See Sense.com.

That and install some hidden kill switches. Trust NOTHING from the Chinese. They lie.

21 posted on 05/28/2020 5:58:17 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Enlightened1

I wouldn’t put it past the ChiComs to put circuits in those transformers that can crash the grid whenever it was convenient for China to do so.


22 posted on 05/28/2020 5:58:30 AM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: BobL

That item about “ diagnostic electronics” caught my eye, too, and I had the same reaction as you.

How hard would it be to send intel to China regarding power flows? That would be incredibly valuable information for an enemy. Worse, could an outside command take the transformer offline or cause it to self-destruct?


23 posted on 05/28/2020 5:59:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: KC_Lion

I remember threats Communist China made against the Philippines last year that made the news in Europe and in the US after Communist China threatened to take the Philippines power grid down with a push of a button. I think that spurred US authorities into action


24 posted on 05/28/2020 6:04:06 AM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Enlightened1

Why on earth WOULDN’T a country like China build in some destructive short circuits and make them addressable via satellite?

Why
WOULDN’T
they?


25 posted on 05/28/2020 6:08:51 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Enlightened1

Does anyone remember Broadband over Power Lines? BPL

It was supposed to be the easy way to deliver broadband nationwide.

What if the Chicoms are using the transformers as means of sending data through power lines?

Or maybe our gov’t sends data over power lines and Chicoms are trying to tap into it.


26 posted on 05/28/2020 6:13:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: dp0622

Our military isn’t the brightest.


27 posted on 05/28/2020 6:13:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: AndyJackson
Transformers do not contain software-based control systems and are passive devices, though recent equipment may contain diagnostic electronics, the WSJ said.

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This is important because Sandia does some of the most sensitive work that the government does and as an advanced engineering science laboratory is probably the premier place for any such investigations to be done.

How many lines of code to take to take down a transformer - or hand control to a Chinese satellite? Is this a serious threat?

These things take years to build... we don't build any in the US... Does China build them all? Thanks...

28 posted on 05/28/2020 6:14:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: Enlightened1
Transformers do not contain software-based control systems and are passive devices, though recent equipment may contain diagnostic electronics

That was certainly true for the first 100 years or so that transformers have existed. But not so much anymore. The WSJ writers really need to educate themselves on IoT (Internet of Things).

It's why "smart meters" were a really BAD idea.


29 posted on 05/28/2020 6:17:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Enlightened1
The transformer probably had a "kill switch" hidden in the software.

YES big transformers have embedded computers in them.

30 posted on 05/28/2020 6:20:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: GOPJ

“How many lines of code to take to take down a transformer”

No code needed. ASIC chips or an FPGA chip can easily be embedded in a circuit with little detection. A simple network sniffer that looks for a key code can do the trick with only a few extra circuits. These backdoor circuits were found in many chips coming from China in defense contracted projects.


31 posted on 05/28/2020 6:22:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It's why "smart meters" were a really BAD idea.

It's why people like you ought to have a background in electrical engineering before you speak with authority on subjects you know nothing about.

33-year electrical engineer, 23 years designing wireless/smart metering equipment (electrical, gas, water).

32 posted on 05/28/2020 6:23:45 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: mewzilla
https://globalsmt.net/raytheon-partners-with-ironnet-cybersecurity/

from link:

John DeSimone, vice president of cybersecurity and special missions, Raytheon Intelligence, Information and Services, said: ‘Protecting critical infrastructure is no longer a private sector concern, but a national security imperative.

‘We know malicious actors seek to disrupt global economies through attacks on technology systems that keep our lights on, food supplies safe and militaries prepared.

33 posted on 05/28/2020 6:26:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: backwoods-engineer

IT guy here who knows a thing or two about hackers.

With all due respect, EE programs weren’t teaching anything about that back in the Disco Era.


34 posted on 05/28/2020 6:32:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: CodeToad
ASIC chips or an FPGA chip can easily be embedded in a circuit with little detection. A simple network sniffer that looks for a key code can do the trick with only a few extra circuits. These backdoor circuits were found in many chips coming from China in defense contracted projects.

So, we could have the equivalent of an EMP attack without the 125 miles above the US nuke explosion? Under those circumstances we wouldn't be sure if the grid going down was an act of war - or a 'accident'?

Since transformers take years to build - and one area going down can trip other areas into going down to protect equipment - does this mean we're screwed? Or do you think we've created systems to get around this type of attack?

Thanks for sharing and explaining...

35 posted on 05/28/2020 6:41:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: GOPJ

Our grid is extremely vulnerable infrastructure. Possibly the weakest point in our nation given that there are very few spares for the largest transformers and equipment on hand and they are manufactured in China with a long delivery time. We don’t even have many of the smaller transformers on hand.

There are many of us who have said this for years.

I suppose a deliberate attack by a nefarious state actor is one possibility. Others talk about EMP attacks.

However, the earth has a history of massive solar storms that can seriously upset the grid as well (a natural disaster of sorts). Imagine if one of these happened and knocked out much of the grid around the world. Who would have first dibs on the critical equipment that would need to be replaced to restore widespread electrical service?

It would be the same people who claimed first dibs on PPE, first dibs on medication, etc etc.

This is a very real threat. Imagine 2-4 months without electrical power. It would be catastrophic - especially in densely populated urban centers. We should manufacture these here in the US and we should keep spares on hand and harden others when possible.

Just my .02


36 posted on 05/28/2020 6:47:22 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Compromise of the insulation would be a most effective way to eliminate a large transformer. Accomplishing this feat by remote command would be a work of art.


37 posted on 05/28/2020 6:49:18 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

“a work of art”

LOL. Tongue firmly in cheek, I’d say. You’re very polite this morning.


38 posted on 05/28/2020 6:51:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Erik Latranyi

ULF as in sending messages to a submarine?


39 posted on 05/28/2020 6:52:32 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Enlightened1
Cai told the newspaper that even if someone accessed the diagnostic data, it was of no import.
Well gee, we should have saved all that trouble and just asked Cai.

BTW, is Cai a Chinese name?...just asking.

40 posted on 05/28/2020 6:58:35 AM PDT by lewislynn (STOP SUPPORTING CHINA AND ANTI-AMERICAN GLOBALISTS! DO IT NOW!)
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