[null and void]

Originally posting deleted by the Mod Squad because LRoggy used the title from a different source:

The Remdesivir Study Is Finally Out: Drug Only Helped Those On Oxygen, Finds Mortality Too High For Standalone Treatment

Don't do that Roggy! Begging the Mod Squad to fix the title doesn't cut it, you must be punished...

[null and void]

DAMMIT!!!

We're going to have to go back the the cheap, readily available, effective treatment the Orange Man Bad advocated over a month ago!

too bad about the 150,000 that died since then...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

[Sacajaweau]

Remember...This is given intravenously so you must be hospitalized. From reading the results.....it didn’t do much....if anything.

[LRoggy]

Which one of you is Null and which one is Void? I want to be punished by the more liberal one . . .

[Blood of Tyrants]

11 days vs 15 days for recovery? That’s hardly the miracle drug they have been touting and far less effective that what doctors have been reporting for the HCQ/Z-pack/Zinc combo.

[silverleaf]

Gee, only 20% chance of liver damage for the survivors

Sign up today!

[willk]

Looks like decent results for those hospitalized and on oxygen. Hopefully HCQ will be found to be helpful in preventing people from getting to this stage.

[WASCWatch]

Most of those treated with the HCQ combo walk out of the hospital in five days.

[semimojo]

Regardless of what happened in the placebo group, a 21% rate of serious adverse reactions is terrible.

It would be terrible if that's what they said happened, but it isn't.

Some patients had adverse events, which in general were just a worsening in condition as the disease ran it's course.

Only 4 of the 255 adverse events were attributed to Remdesivir or the placebo (2 each):

"Serious adverse events occurred in 114 patients (21.1%) in the remdesivir group and 141 patients (27.0%) in the placebo group (Table S3); 4 events (2 in each group) were judged by site investigators to be related to remdesivir or placebo. There were 28 serious respiratory failure adverse events in the remdesivir group (5.2% of patients) and 42 in the placebo group (8.0% of patients). Acute respiratory failure, hypotension, viral pneumonia, and acute kidney injury were slightly more common among patients in the placebo group. No deaths were considered to be related to treatment assignment, as judged by the site investigators."

Those taking Remdesivir had significantly fewer adverse medical events than those taking the placebo.

And almost none of them were "side effects".

[catnipman]

doc from local hospital told me they don’t use remdisivir because the $4,000 cost per treatment course isn’t “worth the money”; in other words, it doesn’t work ... and my own doc told me it doesn’t work ...

[catnipman]

doc from local hospital told me they don’t use remdisivir because the $4,000 cost per treatment course isn’t “worth the money”; in other words, it doesn’t work ... and my own doc told me it doesn’t work ...