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SHUTDOWNS: WHAT’S THE POINT?
Powerline ^ | May 21,2020 | BY JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 05/21/2020 6:06:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Doing this, however, lifts the cap on non-exposure gained from the lockdown. That is why no government has an explicit exit strategy: what political leaders call the “controlled easing” of lockdowns actually means controlled progress toward herd immunity.

Governments cannot openly avow this, because that would amount to admitting that herd immunity is the objective. And it is not yet even known whether and for how long infection confers immunity. Much better, then, to pursue this goal silently, under a cloud of obfuscation, and hope that a vaccine arrives before most of the population is infected.

Emphasis added. I think Skidelsky is right, and governments across the Western world are engaged in an elaborate charade in which the real strategy they are pursuing–if there is one–is never truthfully disclosed. Governors in the U.S. say they are lifting restrictions when it is “safe” to do so. But how is it safe? The virus hasn’t gone away, and it isn’t going to go away.

I would only add that if Skidelsky wants to see a real “cloud of obfuscation,” he should come to Minnesota and listen to Governor Tim Walz blather incoherently through his frequent press conferences.

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1 posted on 05/21/2020 6:06:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Doing this, however, lifts the cap on non-exposure gained from the lockdown.

One of the reasons I like the face masks, for others.

It gives them a sense of security whie being exposed to the virus.

Falls under 'Ignorance is Bliss'.

2 posted on 05/21/2020 6:11:10 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Hojczyk

One word: Control. The hatred of Trump will drive rabid leftists to do anything to belittle, besmirch, denigrate, ridicule, accuse, and convict him for one thing: he won the presidency as an outsider who was not in their insider club and did not play by their rules.


3 posted on 05/21/2020 6:13:25 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Hojczyk
During the Obama government shut-down, what was the point of closing the state parks, the Washington Monument, and the WWII Memorial while the Honor Flights with 90 year old veterans were running charities to go there?

Answer: to inflict as much pain on the American people in order to blame Republicans.

-PJ

4 posted on 05/21/2020 6:18:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Hojczyk

Crashing the economy and seizing more power and government money is the goal of those pushing lockdowns.


5 posted on 05/21/2020 6:20:03 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Hojczyk

The Democrat Party leaders have committed some awful crimes.

It’s a stall game for them.


6 posted on 05/21/2020 6:21:41 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Hojczyk
No the goal is not herd immunity. They aren't saying that's the goal because it's NOT the goal.

The lock downs provided:

Those are all great points to the shut downs.

The point of gradual reopening include:


7 posted on 05/21/2020 6:23:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Danny, you do realize that everything you wrote did not exist in mankinds past right?

You just don’t seem to get how the immune system works nor how viruses work.

Please go pick up a freaking textbook on the human immune system and how virus move through humanity.

Here is a hint. One of the beauties of the human immune system is its use of a threat as a means to defeating that threat. You and your ilk only stand in the way of the beauty which is the immune system.


8 posted on 05/21/2020 6:47:50 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: Hojczyk

We are surrounded by Viruses, continually.


9 posted on 05/21/2020 6:52:50 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To: walkingdead

Many viruses have been eradicated from North America, because we refused to let them run their course. We went to war with them. Developed vaccines, tracked them down and quarantined them out of existence, eliminated their carriers.

The immune system might be a beautiful thing, but there is unacceptable collateral damage. Not getting viruses in the first place is even more beautiful.


10 posted on 05/21/2020 6:54:27 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Fungi

...drive rabid leftists to do anything...
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So, let them continue in self-imposed isolated lockdown for the next 4 years.

Everyone else goes back to life.


11 posted on 05/21/2020 7:00:24 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: walkingdead

Save your breath. This poster is convinced and will continue doubling down, offering suspect verification until they fall over on their keyboard from hypoxia.


12 posted on 05/21/2020 7:03:26 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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preaching to the choir here....most of know what has happened....even acknowledging the seriousness of this virus....

but there are those here also who bought the whole enchilada....

13 posted on 05/21/2020 7:07:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DannyTN

We should figured all this out over the last 100 years with the countless flues since 1918. Furthermore, since so many flues are of Chinese origin, why do we continue to interact with the source?


14 posted on 05/21/2020 7:08:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: DannyTN

Flu vaccines are a joke. We don’t know anyone who gets the flu shot and got the flu. It’s a feel good, cash cow tactic developed by the pharmaceutical industry.


15 posted on 05/21/2020 7:11:33 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: DannyTN
Yes, remember the slogan in mid-March,

"Fifteen days to flatten the curve"

?

Practically every supported it then. The goal wasn't to reduce the total number of infections. The goal was to spread it out (lower hill, longer tail) so a sudden crush of COVID cases wouldn't overwhelm the hospitals.

Now they've long since achieved those objectives. Many hospitals in fact prepared expensively and wastefully for a "crush" of coronavirus cases that never materialized, and now medical workers are being furloughed, small and regional hospitals are closing. Mayo Clinic just laid of 30,000. So the lockdown enhusiasts want to keep it going on and on til they haven't just flattened the curve, they've crushed the economy and flattened the country.

We lost the plot.

16 posted on 05/21/2020 7:26:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: DannyTN
There aren't any effective vaccines for today's major viruses. Dengue, Cytomegalovirus, Hookworm infection, Malaria, even the perennial "seasonal flu" or "common cold".

They've been "working on" a vaccine for 35 years for HIV, and --- zilch.

The annual flu vaccine is *annual* because it mutates so fast nothing will give lasting immunity. This year's guess-and-guess-again flu vaccine is, what? Barely 40% effective?

Let's go with HCQ-type prophylaxis for healthcare workers, isolation of the contagious, and sequestering the most vulnerable populations --- elderly, people with comorbidity and their housemates, people living in group homes --- and the rest of us carry on.

Because if the economy collapses, we've got nothing for nobody..

You can't shrink economies without devastating insurance and healthcare systems and wrecking medical financing. Without modern healthcare systems we're back in the wards with Florence Nightingale and her herbs, alcohol, chlorine and soap.

17 posted on 05/21/2020 7:55:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Hojczyk

We never believed that the left would do anything possible to gain control and try to destroy the President even a WMD as this virus is.


18 posted on 05/21/2020 8:41:16 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DannyTN

Is that you, Andrew Cuomo?


19 posted on 05/21/2020 10:12:51 PM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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20 posted on 05/21/2020 10:21:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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