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1 posted on 05/17/2020 9:21:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Arguing with leftists will only drive you insane.

They do not accept reality.


2 posted on 05/17/2020 9:28:36 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Nobody argues about the 1.7B$

https://apnews.com/fd4113419276444eba1d2a46d5c29752/US-payment-of-%241.7-billion-to-Iran-made-entirely-in-cash


3 posted on 05/17/2020 9:29:23 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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The billions in money “given” to Iran was money we froze then let them have by unfreezing it.

There was also supposedly $400 million in cash we flew to Iran.


4 posted on 05/17/2020 9:29:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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And here’ is CNN showing a video of the cash....
https://youtu.be/ddRcnZgiK7o

Liberals should believe it.


5 posted on 05/17/2020 9:31:11 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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If you told her all that but then also added that it was really reparations for our Desert One incursion, she’d believe you in a heartbeat. Cement that thought into her mind so securely that she’ll repeat it and defend it to her liberal friends. Then go make popcorn.


6 posted on 05/17/2020 9:31:36 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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approx. 1.5 billion actually. Flown there? Maybe? Used for terrorism? probably.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/jun/07/karen-handel/Handel-pushes-details-Iran-deal-terror-support/

“Money for terrorism
The idea that the Obama administration admitted that the money is being spent on terrorists comes from something then-Secretary of State John Kerry said in an interview.

Kerry told CNBC’s Squawk Box in January 2016 that Iran could spend the unfrozen assets however it wanted.

“I think that some of it will end up in the hands of the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps) or of other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists,” Kerry said. “To some degree, I’m not going to sit here and tell you that every component of that can be”


7 posted on 05/17/2020 9:32:00 AM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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Sorry I can’t provide any links but from experience, Jesus Christ could tell a Liberal/Progressive the truth and they wouldn’t believe it. I’ve tried to have rational conversations with them and it’s an extremely frustrating waste of time and effort.

The Truth to the Left is whatever they want the Truth to be.


8 posted on 05/17/2020 9:32:22 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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It was frozen money meant for a future, non-theocratic, non-dictatorship, non-hostile Iranian regime that compensated us for taking the US embassy hostage. That money would have been an excellent boost to the finances of the successor to this current regime. Except Obama gave the farm away, meaning that any new regime will require tens of billions in American aid to get going. And the Iranian nuclear program got a real shot in the arm. Not to mention that the Iranian regime got a new lease on life after a period in which economic unrest was threatening to topple it. It’s as if Reagan had suddenly handed vast sums of money to the Soviet Union just as it was beginning to fall apart.


9 posted on 05/17/2020 9:37:57 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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My dog has a better understanding of the truth than any liberal so you are wasting your time.

They will twist the truth and refer to lies to make themselves better about themselves.

obama did that. You know it, I know it, she knows it. Just let it go.


10 posted on 05/17/2020 9:38:40 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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Conservatives for some reason engage liberals in the hope they can somehow “change” them thru educating them. You foolishly believe that a liberal wants to learn, and more importantly you think that this liberal processes information in the way that you do.

Western politicians have always thought this about Islam and China as well.

You can’t be more incorrect in your assumptions, and will have better luck finding Bigfoot.

Never argue with a stupid person (liberal), as they will only drag you down and beat you with experience. Their circular “logic” is only a trap - don’t waste your time or mental energy.


11 posted on 05/17/2020 9:39:29 AM PDT by datura
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Conservatives for some reason engage liberals in the hope they can somehow “change” them thru educating them. You foolishly believe that a liberal wants to learn, and more importantly you think that this liberal processes information in the way that you do.

Western politicians have always thought this about Islam and China as well.

You can’t be more incorrect in your assumptions, and will have better luck finding Bigfoot.

Never argue with a stupid person (liberal), as they will only drag you down and beat you with experience. Their circular “logic” is only a trap - don’t waste your time or mental energy.


13 posted on 05/17/2020 9:42:07 AM PDT by datura
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Block her and please, remain in quarantine until it’s safe.


16 posted on 05/17/2020 9:45:45 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Just put in ‘obama’s pallet of cash to iran’ in any search browser.


17 posted on 05/17/2020 9:47:37 AM PDT by Bommer (t'am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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Vanity: Need help with money sent to Iran by Obama...

Well it sounds risky but I’m in on stealing it.


18 posted on 05/17/2020 9:48:09 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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Walk up to your wall stand about 6 inches from the baseboard and whack your head as hard as can against the wall....

Same results as talking to her....


21 posted on 05/17/2020 9:51:10 AM PDT by Popman
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“I’m in a discussion with a woman who is hellbent on defending obama “

Why would you waste your time on her?

There are so may better things you could be doing.


23 posted on 05/17/2020 10:00:29 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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It’s hard to argue with someone who wants to believe a lie. They don’t care about facts.


24 posted on 05/17/2020 10:12:34 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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Why do you waste your time. Anyone this far gone isn’t going to be convinced even if you gave her certified copies of the cleared checks.


25 posted on 05/17/2020 10:17:10 AM PDT by dila813
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So the big chunk of money was just money that was unfrozen.

In pure cash (not just dollars, but Euro and Swiss Francs)....there were a couple of deliveries with pallets. First one was 400-million...more followed after that...to total 1.7-billion US dollars.

Now, here’s the ‘rest of the story’ (as Paul Harvey would tell it).

Iran is in a cash mess right now, with business owners and well-to-do Iranians taking their profits (what does exist) and simply swapping for non-Iranian currencies....to be removed from the country. Most of this goes to Dubai. They buy condos, gold, and anything of value....to store and hold.

Chief reason? I talked to an Iranian in 2017 who’d left. For a decade, there’s NO confidence in the economy, or the banks of Iran. They all expect a collapse to occur. So when money comes into the hands of merchants....they refuse to deposit it in Iran banks. The exchange rate in the past three years? Pretty crappy, but they don’t care.

This 1.7-billion was supposed to be some short-term relief for the banks. What is generally said...the VIPs of the government swept up the cash (dollars, Euro, etc) and did their movement of the cash outside of Iran....to continue the trend. So the 1.7-billion probably didn’t last more than 60 days, before it left the country. All of it....probably resides in Dubai today (just my humble guess).

So this should bring you to the obvious pondering....how can a government like this last? Day by day....month by month...it’s simply moving closer to a economic collapse. Somewhere over the next decade....some massive public anger will erupt, with the currency declared worthless.


26 posted on 05/17/2020 10:18:52 AM PDT by pepsionice
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It’s true they don’t accept reality even when given facts.

One tack is they simply change what they meant.

In this case can you tell us what she says it is the lie?

What exactly does she mean? What is the lie?

For example you can show her from a liberal source that Obama gave Iran the money.

She’ll then just say it was Iran’s money, nothing wrong with it etc...


27 posted on 05/17/2020 10:27:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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