Posted on 05/17/2020 9:21:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
I'm in a discussion with a woman who is hellbent on defending obama and saying the $150b given to Iran is a lie. I provided a few links, she provided fact check (liberal) and AP (liberal).
Can someone provide links and info on what really happened? Thank you!
Walk up to your wall stand about 6 inches from the baseboard and whack your head as hard as can against the wall....
Same results as talking to her....
“...some of which are labeled terrorists,” Kerry said.
Notice the weasel words here, not really terrorists, just labeled so. Uh-huh.
“I’m in a discussion with a woman who is hellbent on defending obama “
Why would you waste your time on her?
There are so may better things you could be doing.
It’s hard to argue with someone who wants to believe a lie. They don’t care about facts.
Why do you waste your time. Anyone this far gone isn’t going to be convinced even if you gave her certified copies of the cleared checks.
So the big chunk of money was just money that was unfrozen.
In pure cash (not just dollars, but Euro and Swiss Francs)....there were a couple of deliveries with pallets. First one was 400-million...more followed after that...to total 1.7-billion US dollars.
Now, here’s the ‘rest of the story’ (as Paul Harvey would tell it).
Iran is in a cash mess right now, with business owners and well-to-do Iranians taking their profits (what does exist) and simply swapping for non-Iranian currencies....to be removed from the country. Most of this goes to Dubai. They buy condos, gold, and anything of value....to store and hold.
Chief reason? I talked to an Iranian in 2017 who’d left. For a decade, there’s NO confidence in the economy, or the banks of Iran. They all expect a collapse to occur. So when money comes into the hands of merchants....they refuse to deposit it in Iran banks. The exchange rate in the past three years? Pretty crappy, but they don’t care.
This 1.7-billion was supposed to be some short-term relief for the banks. What is generally said...the VIPs of the government swept up the cash (dollars, Euro, etc) and did their movement of the cash outside of Iran....to continue the trend. So the 1.7-billion probably didn’t last more than 60 days, before it left the country. All of it....probably resides in Dubai today (just my humble guess).
So this should bring you to the obvious pondering....how can a government like this last? Day by day....month by month...it’s simply moving closer to a economic collapse. Somewhere over the next decade....some massive public anger will erupt, with the currency declared worthless.
It’s true they don’t accept reality even when given facts.
One tack is they simply change what they meant.
In this case can you tell us what she says it is the lie?
What exactly does she mean? What is the lie?
For example you can show her from a liberal source that Obama gave Iran the money.
She’ll then just say it was Iran’s money, nothing wrong with it etc...
Interesting, thanks for posting that tidbit about Dubai and Iran. Shades of connected Chinese using Canada as a way to get their money and family the heck out of China.
I’m convinced that, for many of them, it’s more about being Not Wrong than about ideology.
“I’m convinced that, for many of them, it’s more about being Not Wrong than about ideology.”
That’s a good point.
All you can do is keep them from totally tuning out and plant seeds.
I agree with all of the assertions that to argue with a liberal is essentially fruitless. But I do like to have the facts myself and I didn’t have a clear picture of this event.
As I believe it stands now, the $150b (sanction?) was Iran’s money that was a frozen asset due to their terrorist activity and the fact that they owed victims of terrorism. Nothing was supposed to be released until they quit their terrorist activities and support as well as pay off those victims. The obama regime unfroze the $150b and then sent ~$1.7m(?) in interest on $400m that was in an account from Iran meant to purchase equipment.
That $400m was to pay families of terror victims.
The $1.7b in cash landed on the same day the hostages were released so many thought it was ransom. Obama claims it was because there were sanctions on Iran that money couldn’t get to them any other way.
Bottom line, obama is dirty and does not do things on the up and up. He essentially funded Iran to continue to kill us.
You cannot argue with insane people. Logic never enters their mind.
I have spoken to democrats and know this for sure.
Old saying: “Do not argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience”.
$1.7B, not $1.7m
bfl
Me, too. A burlap bag filled with 20s would be fine. Sequential or non-sequential doesn't matter.
Does anyone think Obama didn’t get a piece of the action. From the moment the cash was flown to Iran I said, “hmmmm”, so that’s how Obama is going to enrich himself. Does anyone think that when you give that kind of jack to a fellow criminal that you don’t want something in return. Perhaps a billion or two deposited in an account to be retrieved later.
Arguing with LIBs/Leftists is the equivalent of arguing with a psychotic...they are all psychotic. Why waste you time? Don’t be naive. Life is too short to entertain those mentally ill freaks.
what - 1.7Billion is not enough to prove Obama was a bad actor?
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-obama-helped-fund-the-iranian-regime/
this spells it out some but does not expand on the ‘billions’ odumbo gave Iran. I can’t figure out if the $150b was theirs or ours.
Is she hot?
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