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Corona Virus Daily Thread #50 COVID-19 5/04/2020
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Posted on 05/04/2020 3:29:25 AM PDT by RaceBannon

Corona Virus Daily Thread #50 COVID-19 5/04/2020


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; pandemic; plague; timeline
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To: miserare

That is terrible!

Will look for the GP article.

Thanks.


121 posted on 05/04/2020 9:05:31 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: blueplum

That’s my thought, as well.....Crazy old Joe is going to make this easy, indeed.

UNLESS.....they force him out, over his creepiness, of years gone by.

Release the Senate records, old Joe!

I didn’t click on your link...does it blame Trump for anything?

So sick of these hacks coming out w/their globalist lies and blame game (yes, you, W Bush!)


122 posted on 05/04/2020 9:08:39 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: RummyChick

The virus could easily have been, and probably was, in the US in December. But the number of infected would have been tiny and your (anybody’s) chance of having contacted and been infected by one of them also tiny.

The people claiming they ‘had it already’ any time before early February are #MeTooFakingIt - unless they can trace it to a known case or traveler from China, etc. It simply isn’t statistically plausible that all these people saying they had it to promote their belief that there is herd immunity are correct - even if they believe it themselves, which in many cases I doubt.


123 posted on 05/04/2020 9:20:58 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

I’ll have you now I happen to have Grade A 99.9999% pure snot as innocent and virus free as the freshly fallen snow.


124 posted on 05/04/2020 9:45:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ETCM

could it be they were all infected within a day or two, about 5 days ago?


125 posted on 05/04/2020 9:50:23 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: calenel
It simply isn’t statistically plausible that all these people saying they had it to promote their belief that there is herd immunity are correct - even if they believe it themselves, which in many cases I doubt.

People believe what they want to believe, what they need to believe.

I have concluded that people do what they want to do, then make up excuses, reasons, justifications, theories, after the fact to justify their behaviors.
126 posted on 05/04/2020 9:53:27 PM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: Jane Long

re: link, not really. It’s a loose timeline that bemoans how ‘slow’ the US testing was compared to other countries and in calling for masks. But it was never acknowledged in the article that the other ‘faster’ countries were using the only other test in the world at the time - Chinese tests at a 30% accuracy rate. Even the German-invented test wasn’t infallible - or widely distributed. It does at least mention that the US was shipping good tests to 3 dozen countries by mid-March. (all we hear is the US is going it alone, but that is so not true)


127 posted on 05/04/2020 10:00:47 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: justa-hairyape
A mask with a big hole in it is sufficient compliance with government orders that people wear masks. A Halloween mask is adequate compliance. Government orders that people wear masks are not enforceable in any court proceeding that the accused hasn't agreed to, i.e., they aren't enforceable if the accused don' wanna.

Ditto for stay at home, business closure and social distancing orders. NONE of these are legal, let alone constitutional. Government claims that such orders are legal are pure lies. At best it's something they want gullible people to believe. AFAIK, no court anywhere in the US has held that CV19 orders are legally enforceable. At best some courts have ducked the issue or urged the parties to work out a deal.

This changes when a governor or the President declares a state of martial law, but none have so far and, effectively, they can't until the daily death rate goes up by another zero.

"A mask with a hole cutout is not a mask. It serves no purpose."

128 posted on 05/04/2020 10:14:18 PM PDT by Thud
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To: miserare

perspective, my FRiend:

NYC doctor: “I’ve never seen someone so disconnected with clinical care”

part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrpDa_LmkF4

“If they’re presenting with saturation 50/60, either wait for them to arrest or intubate as a last resort to try to save their lives” “It’s true, they can’t give consent when they’re unconscious” That’s why there are advance directives.
part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSUl5Yf_UtI

Male nurse volunteering in NYC:
“Insane Murder Going on in NYC Hospitals” is total BS!

(girl video) is selling it hard but where she’s pulling it from, is not reality. Hospitals pursued high-dose Vits/alt meds early, but no evidence of improvement so are not using any longer. Bipap and other techniques/blood products are being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X390Im7jedY

NP speaks out: “I’m sad about the lies being told about my fellow nurses and doctors”
intubation was faster at beginning because they didn’t know what they were handling and more cases were critical. Now intubation is being avoided and ppl are showing up before they get critical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEa16K08XFI


129 posted on 05/04/2020 11:00:49 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: RightGeek

Three Russian doctors fall from hospital windows, raising questions amid coronavirus pandemic

Two of those health care workers are dead, and one remains hospitalized.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/three-russian-doctors-fall-from-hospital-windows-raising-questions-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB13An1i?ocid=spartanntp

Asian Murder Hornets?


130 posted on 05/04/2020 11:08:33 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: cgbg

Not with a bioengineered virus. We are not Guinea pigs for a lying state.


131 posted on 05/04/2020 11:17:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ETCM

It is a bioengineered virus. Guns are meaningless now. You can be killed with a sneeze.


132 posted on 05/04/2020 11:19:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ETCM

They can take OTC meds to lower temp and get rid of coughing. But it could have also spread like wildfire in a week too.


133 posted on 05/04/2020 11:24:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Thud

I dont care what a virus mutating government says about anything. You ain’t getting in with a potential biowarfare germ. We are at war.


134 posted on 05/04/2020 11:29:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: blueplum

They are forcing them to work on patients without PPE. Just like they forced workers to dig under Chernobyl reactor.


135 posted on 05/04/2020 11:31:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: blueplum

‘Put on a mask and shut up’: China’s undiplomatic diplomats hit back at critics

BEIJING — The newscast blares from a television set in a Beijing apartment, carrying through an open window and echoing across the compound. The refrain is the same every evening: praise for China’s handling of the coronavirus, dire scenes from foreign hospitals and condemnations of the United States...

Chinese ambassadors are attacking foreign officials on social media and peddling misinformation — amplified by the state-controlled press — to deflect blame for the virus that has killed a quarter of a million people and wrecked global economies...

...analysts say the menacing tone feeds patriotic sentiment in China, where the party is eager to limit the damage of an outbreak that has killed thousands and tipped the economy into decline for the first time in at least three decades.

Foreign criticism “strikes right at the heart of one of the myths that the party has been cultivating to bolster its legitimacy at home: that the (Chinese Communist Party) is efficient, competent and capable, and that it is the only one able to effectively lead the nation,” Rolland said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/put-on-a-mask-and-shut-up-chinas-undiplomatic-diplomats-hit-back-at-critics/ar-BB13AKbl


136 posted on 05/04/2020 11:32:51 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: All

“What the Coronavirus Models Can’t See”

- see https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/what-the-coronavirus-models-cant-see.html


137 posted on 05/04/2020 11:34:42 PM PDT by Fury
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To: justa-hairyape
Well folks, it's genetically modified. We have the smoking gun (PRRA). Chris at Peak Prosperity points it out and shows how our top virologists are lying through their teeth.

Are Our Scientist Lying to Us

Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research

138 posted on 05/04/2020 11:38:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

who was forcing them? hint: the CCP

During WW2, men fought without bullets. During the Viet War, men fought without air support or supply chains. During this war, our first liners started this viral ambush without adequate PPE, even less clinical knowledge, and very limited pharmaceutical options. PPE has improved in the last month, in a war-time, working around a stragetic-shortage attack, scraping the corners of the earth for product, kind of way.

But let’s not forget, from January on, when there were no cases of CCPVirus in the US, CCP had ‘stuff’ hunters out scouring the globe for all the stuff the world would soon need. And they bought it all up. Hundreds of tons. And the fabric to make them, too. Enough for every man woman child and baby in China to have 10 PPE suits and a dozen masks each. (even if they did show us film clips of the poor who couldn’t buy masks) (I particularly liked the one where the old farmers were using melons as masks). It was reminiscent of the daiguo’s - who go around stripping Australia and the US of baby formula, or Walgreens of their entire lipstick displays, or toy stores of the latest toys, so that the product can be sold in China for Chinese for a profit. It’s called capitalism, ok, greed and selfishness, in peace-time. In wartime, pandemic time, it’s an international crime.

This was a mission-complete, TV show made for broadcast on CNTV, before the USA had a dozen cases and the world was still focused on the Diamond Princess. In the meantime, Shanghai factories alone were generating 100M masks a month. In February. Each. So they could sell their masks and gowns at 3-10x the normal rate - committing the int’l crime of illegal price gouging in a pandemic and using mask diplomacy to buy one-sided power concessions for China. As China exploits death to try to transform their economic power into world political supremacy. As China uses televised videos of overrun hospitals around the world to bolster their citizens sense of ‘superiority’ to the world.

It sucks our ambulance drivers, EMTs, cops, firemen, nurses, NPs, ICU certified and doctors, grocers, minimart clerks, postal employees, food chain employees, and our vulnerable, were ambushed. No doubt about it. And while it’s acceptable to lay some blame on the Governors and their Disaster Preparedness staff for a rocky start, the real blame falls squarely to CCP China. Where it should remain. Very vocally. And very harshly. Had China not actively tried to monopolize critical supplies, had they not withheld data, or put out fake data, many of our first liners would be with us today. China lied and people died.


139 posted on 05/05/2020 12:16:37 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

BATTLE OF SOURCES - Will the Truth Please Stand Up?

Five Eyes network contradicts theory Covid-19 leaked from lab

“There is no current evidence to suggest that coronavirus leaked from a Chinese research laboratory, intelligence sources have told the Guardian, contradicting recent White House claims that there is growing proof this is how the pandemic began.
The sources also insisted that a “15-page dossier” highlighted by the Australian Daily Telegraph which accused China of a deadly cover up was not culled from intelligence from the Five Eyes network, an alliance between the UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-contradicts-theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab


140 posted on 05/05/2020 12:26:55 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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