Posted on 04/28/2020 10:17:25 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
No they don’t make them like that anymore, NOW they are in a fetal position under their beds over a damn virus!!
The Holocaust scenes in War and Remembrance are as disturbing as anything you’ll ever see. Kudos to ABC for allowing them to be shown at that time.
bkmrk - thanks.
Didn't care for Gielgud's private life, but his portrayal of Aaron Jastrow was one of the greatest performances I'd ever seen. The scene were he gives the sermon in Thereisienstadt about Job "The Stinking Jew" is one of the most powerful things you'll ever see.
The author of the column on the torpedo bomber attacks against the Japanese fleet left out an important, but often-forgotten fact: Torpedo 8, let by LCDR John Waldron, was actually upgrading to the TBM Avenger in the run-up to Midway.
About one-third of the squadron, including Waldron’s executive officer, crews and support personnel were detailed to reamain in Norfolk early ‘42 to learn to fly and maintain the new aircraf, while the rest of the unit deployed on USS Hornet. They finished their training in late May and were supposed to “catch up” with the rest of their squadron at Pearl Harbor, before they sailed on to Midway. Unfortunately, the Avenger detachment arrived a day late, so they flew on to Midway and operated from the island during the battle.
In fact, the Avenger-equipped section of Torpedo 8 (a total of six aircraft) were the first to attack the Japanese at Midway. Five of the Avengers were shot down; only one TBM made it back to Midway, with two survivors, Ensign Albert Ernest and R2C Harry Ferrier. Both were wounded, but made it through the war. Ernest eventually commanded NAS Oceana and retired as a Captain; Ferrier rose through the ranks, was commissioned and retired as a LCDR. Harry Ferrier was the true, “final survivor” of Torpedo 8; he passed away in 2016.
Post-script: Ensign George Gay was the only survivor from Waldron’s section, and made frequent appearances to discuss his actions in the Battle of Midway. On one occasion, “Bert” Ernest and Harry Ferrier appeared as well. After Gay was introduced as the “sole survivor” of Torpedo 8, someone asked Capt Ernest and Commander Ferrier why they were present. “We’re the other sole survivors,” they explained.
When Gielgud escorts the little girl to the crematorium and she is reunited with her mother and waves goodbye to him, you see him choke up, then before he goes down inside, he takes one last look at the moon... great cinematography...
Bawled like a baby the first time I saw it. There was another scene with the little girl with the flower, I'll never forget it. Nazis didn't pay nearly enough for their crimes.
They filmed one or both of these movies on the USS Alabama in Mobile. I was an extra and almost got in the movie but the camera panned too fast in one scene then I got bored and left. I could only watch Mitchum and Vincent film the same scene over and over for so long.
Yes the flower scene... and then Himmler picks the same kind of flower and gives it to Hoess’s little girl. Evil.
The guy who played Hoess, the Auschwitz Kommandant, was really good in that too.
I remember SNL making fun of her acting.
Thanks for reminding me. These are in the DVD cupboard, so I’ll bring them out!
My wife and I read the books out loud to each other as neither of us wanted to wait for the other of us to finish.
After nearly every chapter we would ask, “Where’s Natalie?”
I read the books again about four years ago. Great reads!
“I’ve watched ....fascinating film... Although Ali Macgraw in ‘the Winds of War’ was absolutely terrible acting...so bad I skipped by those scenes she was that bad!”
I agree! Hers was just about the worst acting performance I have ever seen. Thank God she was replaced by Jane Seymour for “War and Remembrance.”
“I read almost all of Michener’s books, and Wouk’s books, Shirer’s books, and Leon Uris’ books.”
I particularly liked Uris’s “QB VII” and “Mila 18.”
It was a book we covered in my high school english classes.
“When Gielgud escorts the little girl to the crematorium and she is reunited with her mother and waves goodbye to him, you see him choke up, then before he goes down inside, he takes one last look at the moon... great cinematography...”
I think Spielberg got the idea of the “girl in the red coat” in “Schindler’s List” from that scene. Well, at least Spielberg’s little girl reminded me of the little girl with the flower.
Jayne Seymour was so much better, and smokin.
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