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I am having a problem with this decision by General Berger. According to James A. Mitchener, the descendants of Confederate veterans were disproportionately represented in the Marine Corps of WW II as it grew from a few thousand men to six divisions. So, of all the Armed Forces the Corps would be the one most associated with that martial heritage, which Bruce Catton described as including the incomparable infantry of the Army of Northern Virginia.

The Confederate battle flag has become divisive for people who embrace a modern, popular political agenda. A fashionable consensus has emerged of those deciding the existence of Americans, who served in the Confederate armed forces of 150 years ago, inflicts emotional damage on them today. It also includes those, like General Berger, who adjust their actions to validate these perceptions of wounded identity. The instigators reside as fragments of a swarm trading away adulthood and dignity for a prestige lacking dreams to pursue or accomplishments to celebrate. The subservient, enabling parties receive effortless, addictive compassion as the drug of choice.

The Stars and Stripes and Stars and Bars decorate the graves of those who should be honored for having resolved an abandoned political issue. Britain abolished slavery throughout the Empire in 1833, but here politicians ignored the precedents of our founding documents, the accomplishments of Britain, and the rising influence of the infallibility and intransigence of abolitionists and planters. The myopic ideologies of these two factions stumbled us into the Civil War.

Whether referenced in statutes as Civil War (Union and Confederate), Spanish-American, WW I, WW II, Korean, Vietnam, or Desert Storm veterans, I maintain all are also brothers in arms for whom the term American veteran applies. When I visited Arlington Cemetery, I walked by the grave of Confederate unknown soldiers who served under the Stars and Bars. I think I will hold to this now unpopular position.

Partial Bibliography:

The Liberal Mind by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.

Miracle at Philadelphia by Catherine Drinker Bowen

Slavery Abolition Act 1833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

The Case Against Liberal Compassion https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-case-against-liberal-compassion/

Confederate Soldiers Are Considered U.S. Veterans Under Federal Law-Truth! https://www.truthorfiction.com/confederate-soldiers-are-considered-u-s-veterans-under-federal-law/ Confederate Soldiers – American Veterans by Act of Congress https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/03/confederate-soldiers-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/ https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/14/confederate-soldiers-are-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/

1 posted on 04/25/2020 1:44:08 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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Whatever his excuse is it’s unacceptable.


2 posted on 04/25/2020 1:47:09 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Get rid of that damned Im a queer rainbow flag, too!!!!!


3 posted on 04/25/2020 1:49:08 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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“Britain abolished slavery throughout the Empire in 1833,”

Indians in the Raj and Coolies all over Asia would be be fascinated to know the were “free”.


6 posted on 04/25/2020 1:54:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Marine at Shuri Castle during the battle of Okinawa

http://www.confederatedigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Marine_Raises_FlagShuri_Palace.jpg


7 posted on 04/25/2020 1:54:48 PM PDT by YeahBuddy
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The USMC General Officer Corps is rife with pussies, cowards and politically correct globalists with JFK skool of Government credentials.

He will have no problem with females in the infantry, homo men kissing each other, trannies, rainbow flags, etc.

The 0311’s deserve better.


9 posted on 04/25/2020 1:57:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“I walked by the grave of Confederate unknown soldiers who served under the Stars and Bars. I think I will hold to this now unpopular position.”

I fully understand it. I serve 22 years under the American Flag with multiply deployments. There will be a US Flag on my grave when I pass.

Will I have to worry about my grave being desecrated because of the Flag on my grave marker is consider as a hate symbol 50 years in the future?


10 posted on 04/25/2020 1:57:23 PM PDT by DEPcom (To be or not to be?)
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12 posted on 04/25/2020 1:59:12 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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My first thought was this is going to hurt recruitment efforts in the southern states. There is still a very strong sense of attachment to that flag passed down generation to generation.
The Corps. traditionally, has been the most successful recruiting in those states.


13 posted on 04/25/2020 2:02:32 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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Ban ALL flags except The American Flag. Old Glory, The Stars and Bars.

What in hell other flag should be displayed on U.S. property/bases?

Personally I like the Confederate Battle Flag, I always have. I never regarded it as “racist” (its a FLAG). Although, a lot of people do.

There is ZERO reason for a Confederate Battle Flag to be displayed on a U.S. Military installation, or any other (rainblow) flag.

Get rid of ALL flags other than the American flag and I’m okay with it.


19 posted on 04/25/2020 2:10:52 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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A very good friend of mine, was a sergeant in the army. 1990s. Bought and wore a shirt with a Confederate flag and the motto, “It’s a white thing. You wouldn’t understand.” This was in response to blacks wearing shirts with the same saying, however, with Malcolm X, MLK, and other’s pictures emblazoned therein.

Long story short, he was demoted to private and discharged from the service over it.

I don’t know the details as if he was an admitted racist in front of the commander. I never seen that in him though. The minorities were never questioned over their T shirts, and back then, it was very promonent amongst them. He was the first martyr that I was aware of.


22 posted on 04/25/2020 2:14:34 PM PDT by Deepeasttx
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People like this general will promote the sodomite flag.

His motives are not pure.


23 posted on 04/25/2020 2:15:38 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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The last slaves in the United States were freed in New Jersey. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed southern slaves, and this after there were no Southerners in congress. I say we ban Marines from New Jersey as a gesture of unity. Who’s with me? Also let’s tear down some statues.


27 posted on 04/25/2020 2:30:26 PM PDT by golux (In Memory of Kenny Bunk)
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Sons and Daughters of the Confederate is very much Honored and Respected in Our Family. With some even receiving Scholarships from them. If offends oh Well, To shop at the Military bases in 68 in California you had to drive through protesters. September 29 1968 a recent returning Soldier and I were trying to get through the gates at Travis AFB to pick up my returning Husband, they were throwing tomatoes and eggs at our Vehicle. He stepped out told them he was going through with them stuck to the Grill or not. Somethings are worth fighting for and the right to Display this Flag is one.
28 posted on 04/25/2020 2:33:23 PM PDT by easternsky
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There is not one person alive today in the USMC who grew up knowing a Civil War veteran. The reason that Confederate symbols and veteran gatherings were tolerated by the victors rather than erased was originally because it was thought at the time that humiliating the defeated further was counterproductive to the goal of the North which all along was preserving the Union. Having mercy and allowing Confederate veterans grow old with dignity was more useful towards the objective of healing the nation’s wounds than denying them that dignity would have been. Had the victors been vindictive, the war would have been prolonged by violent, resentful holdouts.

But the time is long past where the nation’s prosperity and unity is threatened by unhappy humiliated rebels and it’s no longer necessary to mollify the sons, grandsons or even great grandsons of Confederates to keep them in service because there aren’t any left in the game who can take the ball and go home.

Now, we have recently had a shortage of recruits [though the self-imposed economic crisis may help fill spots] and if confederate symbols now act more as obstacles to the mission and to recruitment and retention than they can possibly contribute to it, then it is time to set them aside in museums and geneaologists’ closets so it cannot be used by our enemies to agitate and sap our strength.


32 posted on 04/25/2020 2:39:51 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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With the govt really crushing freedom at the moment, I suspect they don’t want any flag of resistance being remembered.


33 posted on 04/25/2020 2:40:30 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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Sure General. They better change the patch of the US Army National Guard’s 29th “Blue and Gray” Division while they are at it, and remove any signs of that patch from the headstones of those guys killed on the Easy Green, Dog Red, Dog White, and Dog Green sectors of Omaha beach too....

Once these “woke” trends get started, they spread like “Wuhan Flu” throughout the entire armed forces!!!


35 posted on 04/25/2020 3:00:43 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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The Confederate battle flag has become divisive for people who embrace a modern, popular political agenda.

You are exactly right. Anecdotal evidence is my experience growing up north of the Mason-Dixon line. I have always had a healthy respect for the south, but I would have been a staunch abolitionist in the mid-19th century. I am not the least bit offended by the Confederate Battle flag. There was not a divisive connotation associated with it that I can recall growing up some 40-50 years ago. I retain the same values and ideas from my formative years. It seems only people my age that buy into progressive politics have changed their views over time.

40 posted on 04/25/2020 3:58:50 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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The general still allows the homosexual fag flag stealing of the rainbow on his bases.


41 posted on 04/25/2020 4:00:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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In the 80’s when I was in the Navy, it was not uncommon for southerners to sport battle flags on their cruise jackets. That included black sailors. It was an easy way to identify sailors with a shared background to go and party with.


45 posted on 04/25/2020 4:35:37 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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This marine general is a committed leftist. I expect he will order all bases fly the rainbow flag at some point in the future.

JoMa


48 posted on 04/25/2020 5:04:17 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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