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Corona Virus Daily Thread #48 COVID-19 4/25/2020
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Posted on 04/25/2020 4:04:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon

New Thrtead, starting 4/25/2020


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; epidemic; pandemic
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To: LilFarmer

I’m concerned about the supply chain not because of the virus, but because of people’s reaction to a perceived shortage, just like we saw last month.

And what with the elections coming up this fall, I expect the left to foment social unrest.

As stuff has been appearing on store shelves, I have been buying a little extra each time. And I am not using my store cards or debit cards to pay for it.

Cash and no way to identify me as having purchased it unless they want to chase down the store security videos in places that so that.


41 posted on 04/25/2020 11:57:12 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, then, a vaccine would be useless, wouldn’t it?

If getting sick does not confer immunity, then a vaccine would not either.


42 posted on 04/25/2020 11:58:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: LilFarmer

I thought the shutdown measures were actually prudent to do initially, when we knew less about this virus, but they really should have been done on a county-by-county basis, unless 3/4* of counties were affected — THEN shut the state down.

*2/3 in DE and RI, which have only 3 counties apiece.


43 posted on 04/25/2020 11:58:41 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: BenLurkin

Different strains, maybe?

Winnie the Flu was reported to be deeply saddened by this WHO deviation — that is, questioning the lifting of countermeasures while Winnie the Flu is lifting them.


44 posted on 04/25/2020 12:01:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: BenLurkin
More infected means lower death ratio, yes?

That true as far as it goes.

But at no time in all of recorded history were the people who could only be proved to be infected by sophisticated laboratory procedures counted in the denominator.

For every epidemic EVER only people ill enough to seek medical care were counted as cases.

EVER!

If you want to feeeeel good about this pandemic, add as many people as you like to the denominator. Why stop at those who are sick? Why not add everyone who tests as exposed even if they never get sick? Why stop there? Why not put the population of the whole country in the denominator? After all, they might have been exposes! Hey! How about the entire population of the planet, don't they deserve to be counted???

That'll make the death ratio really low!

And really false, when compared to every disease that has ever swept through a population in the past, when those ignorant, benighted people only counted the overtly sick in their reckoning of how many died of the disease...

45 posted on 04/25/2020 12:21:07 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: metmom

You may have missed the exodus from NYC to other counties, including to places where the summer communities had not even turned the water on yet and no grocery stores were open.

Also essentially bringing the virus to places that had no adequate health care.


46 posted on 04/25/2020 12:33:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Black Agnes
I have had random thoughts that the ‘food supply chain issues’ with this virus were the whole point of the game. Ie, locking us down because of GSM related shortages appearing.

I don't think so. Every GSM seems to include population dislocation, famine and plague. We had time to prepare if science had not been hijacked by the scientism of AGW. For a society with so many technological advances, ours succumbed to animist primitivism. Even the denial clan today have their own head priests, scientism liturgy and false gods.

Of course there will be those who take advantage of it for consolidation of power. The Chinese (CCP-PLA) own this one. They unleashed one of the worst weapons of mass destruction on the world. Anyone in anyway that assists them are quislings and need to be dealt with.
47 posted on 04/25/2020 12:34:01 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

I’ve just been wondering vis a vis the food supply chain disruptions.

Last summer was dreadful in the upper midwest.

let’s hope, for everyone’s sake, this summer is much better.


48 posted on 04/25/2020 12:36:48 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DEPcom
Arizona had it's highest case day yesterday.

And it was bloody damn hot. 90s, we are reaching 100 in the next few days.

49 posted on 04/25/2020 12:40:29 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: Black Agnes

One result of everyone who can exiting NYC: speed demons in hot cars and motorcycles racing around the empty streets in an apparent attempt to make up for all the lost time spent in traffic jams.

Cops too stretched out to worry about this goofy stuff. Pain in the rear to those at home though.


50 posted on 04/25/2020 12:41:41 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: All

“The Economy Will Reopen Sooner Than You Think - Soon we’ll have to face our Hobson’s choice: take what’s available or nothing at all.”

- see https://spectator.org/the-economy-will-reopen-sooner-than-you-think/


51 posted on 04/25/2020 12:43:32 PM PDT by Fury
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To: null and void; exDemMom
Question re: 1918 flu virus.

The tested sample of the 1918 flu was recovered from the Alaskan Brevig Mission, a tiny isolated Inuit settlement.

During the five-day period from November 15-20, 1918, the 1918 pandemic claimed the lives of 72 of the villages’ 80 adult inhabitants.

So my question is, was the recovered virus genome from the first generation? What's the best guess as to the properties of the second more deadly wave of a mutated virus?

52 posted on 04/25/2020 12:44:50 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Black Agnes

GSM? 407 entries for that acronym...


53 posted on 04/25/2020 12:47:00 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

grand solar minimum.


54 posted on 04/25/2020 12:54:49 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: firebrand

LOL.

It’s like Rican day w/o the crowds!


55 posted on 04/25/2020 12:55:13 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: riri

Is it the heat or is it the sun that is most effective in combatting the coronavirus? Either way, people don’t go outside when it is super hot because we have air-conditioning, something we did not have in 1918.


56 posted on 04/25/2020 12:56:47 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Paul R.

Analysis looks correct, although I think herd immunity wont happen until 2021.


57 posted on 04/25/2020 1:05:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Black Agnes
I keep earth.nullschool.net in my pinned tabs. It is a bit clunky, however exceptionally useful. We have not had constrained jet streams for over two years. I'm not very optimistic.

I think we could have hobbled along well with the equivalent of victory gardens. I am much more alarmed at the growing loss of animal products. I think some loss of mono crops will be a blessing in disguise for some people's health.

We need to decentralize animal husbandry and incentivize it locally. The markets seem to be pushing it that way. The viral spread in the meatpacking plants was a black swan for centralized animal product distribution.
58 posted on 04/25/2020 1:10:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: BenLurkin

A chinese report stated 10 % have been reinfected. So 10 % reinfection in 2 months means what across an entire year ?


59 posted on 04/25/2020 1:11:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: BenLurkin

Only if the infected are tested positive. If you just assume a certain percentage of the population has been infected, you are talking an entirely different metric.


60 posted on 04/25/2020 1:13:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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