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The Anti-Semitic Stench of Pink Floyd [Flashback]
The Observer ^ | 12/12/2013 | Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 04/17/2020 4:32:46 PM PDT by edwinland

ve read some heavy-duty attacks on Israel and Jews in my time, but they pale beside the anti-Semitic diatribe recently offered by Roger Waters, co-founder and former front man of the legendary British rock band Pink Floyd. In an interview with CounterPunch online magazine, Waters experienced a shocking Jew-hating colonic.

According to Waters, Israel is a “racist apartheid regime” that practices “ethnic cleansing.” A great artist such as himself will not play in a country equivalent to “Vichy government in occupied France.” Likening Jews to Nazi collaborators was not enough. Waters then went further, comparing Israel to the Nazis themselves. “I would not have played in Berlin either … during the Second World War.” Waters believes that Israel is guilty of genocide, only “this time it’s the Palestinian people being murdered.”

Waters was on a roll. Israel is a “brutal and oppressive regime.” And the rabbis, oh, those murderous, racist rabbis. “The right-wing rabbinate is so bizarre. They believe that everybody that is not a Jew is only on Earth to serve them and the indigenous people of the region that they kicked off the land in 1948 … since they are subhuman. The parallels with what went on in the ’30s in Germany are so crushingly obvious.”

The Jews are dumping a “huge bucket of crap that they are pouring into the mouth of a gullible public, in my view, when they say, ‘We are afraid of Iran; it is going to get nuclear weapons.’ … It’s a diversionary tactic.”

I could go on quoting Waters’ interview, but I’m getting nauseated just writing this stuff. Suffice it to say that he claims he was offered “$10 million” by a Jewish promoter to play in Israel but retorted, “Are you f—ing deaf or just dumb?! I am part of the BDS movement; I’m not going anywhere in Israel, for any money.” He then tried to dissuade Cyndi Lauper from playing in Israel.

Given this interview, I would assume that not too many Israelis will lament losing the chance to see a Pink Floyd reunion in Israel, and maybe we should just leave it at that. But even loathsome, stomach-turning anti-Semitism deserves a response in case gullible fans might actually believe this twisted twaddle.

Mr. Waters, the Nazis were a genocidal regime that murdered 6 million Jews. That you would have the audacity to compare Jews to monsters who murdered them shows you have no decency, you have no heart, you have no soul. The Jews of Germany did nothing to invite the aggression against them. Indeed, they were loyal citizens of a country that many of them had fought for courageously just 20 years earlier in the First World War. They did not blow up buses for political purposes. They did not send terrorists into schools to murder children. They did not preach that killing German children would get them virgins in heaven. They lived lives of humanity and decency and were murdered for no other reason than the fact that they were Jews.

You have disgraced yourself by comparing the martyred 6 million, which included 1-and-a-half-million children who were gassed to death in cold blood, to Palestinian terror organizations like Hamas, whose stated intention it is to wipe Israel off the map.

The Palestinians were given endless opportunities to live with Israel in peace, including the 1936-37 Peel Commission, which partitioned the land into two states, and the U.N. partition plan of 1947, both of which gave the Arabs far more land than the Jews. The Jews accepted the offer, and the Arabs rejected it and instead dedicated themselves to Israel’s destruction. If you don’t believe me, Mr. Waters, then surely even a bigoted ignoramus like you is capable of accessing Wikipedia.

After the Arabs launched another war of annihilation against Israel in 1967, the Jews miraculously defeated four invading Arab armies and conquered huge tracts of land. Rather than practicing any kind of ethnic cleansing, Israel gave back the entire Sinai Peninsula—an area three times the size of Israel—to Egypt in exchange for a peace treaty and announced that it would leave the Arabs and the Muslim Waqf in charge of the holiest site in all of Judaism, the Temple Mount. This act of accommodation has no precedent in the history of the world.

Still, Arafat’s PLO, with its declared intention of armed struggle and destroying the Zionist presence, launched terrorist outrages like the 1970 Avivim school bus massacre and the 1974 Ma’alot school massacre. Despite this, Israel never relinquished its hope that Arab leaders who were sincere about peace might arise.

In 2005, Israel voluntarily withdrew from all of Gaza. Its reward? Hamas, with its genocidal charter against Israel, was voted into power and almost immediately began launching thousands of rockets into Israel, targeting homes, schools and buses filled with children.

Muslims have every right to expect that Jews in general, and rabbis in particular, similarly condemn any acts of violence intentionally directed at any Arab civilian. We are all equally children of one God.

But Hamas is motivated not by Palestinian freedom but by hatred of Jews. Hamas’ charter continues to call for genocide against Israel and the Jewish people: “The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslims … there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’”

When Hamas came to power in 2006, they channeled the billions they received as the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid into rockets rather than hospitals, bombs rather than universities. And they intentionally launch their rockets from nurseries and schools rendering the innocent Palestinian population into human shields, not surprising for an organization that regularly murders Palestinian homosexuals under the false accusation of collaboration and engages in honor killings of young Palestinian women whose only crime is to have a boyfriend.

Roger Waters’ balderdash about rabbis believing that non-Jews are subhumans is the dirtiest of blood libels and contradicts the core teachings of the Torah, which states in its very first chapter, Genesis 1, that every human being is created equally in the image of God.

And surely, even someone with as rancid a heart as Mr. Waters is familiar with what Christians call Jesus’ golden rule but which is actually found much earlier, in the Hebrew Bible, the commandment to “love your fellow man as yourself” (Leviticus 19.17), which Hillel, in the Talmud, interpreted to mean, “That which you hate do not do unto others.”

Perhaps Mr. Waters should take Hillel’s advice. Stop maligning a people who have paid a terrible price for the kind of abominable lies that people like Roger Waters unjustly hurl.


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KEYWORDS: antisemitism; bethlehemderangement; israel; jerusalem; letshavejerusalem; pinkfloyd; rogerwaters; waronterror
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A recent post about Roger Waters reminded me of this excellent take down from 2013. Bit old but still as relevant as ever.
1 posted on 04/17/2020 4:32:46 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland

I must be missing something. Why does this nave new relevance now?


2 posted on 04/17/2020 4:36:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: edwinland

Okay, so one member of the band is a nutcase racist.

What about the music? Anything anti-Semetic in the music?


3 posted on 04/17/2020 4:36:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: edwinland

The writer doesn’t seem to understand that Roger Waters is NOT Pink Floyd. He left the band in 1980 I believe. I can’t think of any PF lyrics that were anti-Israel.


4 posted on 04/17/2020 4:39:44 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: edwinland

My wife still loves Pink Floyd but I don’t listen to them anymore. If they come on the radio I change the channel. Both Roger Waters (militantly) and David Gilmour (casually) espouse the most rabid, old school Jew hatred. Oh, it’s focused on Israel but it’s just the same old crap.


5 posted on 04/17/2020 4:46:37 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: DannyTN

Iregardless of this particular group, it has been my studied opinion for a very very long time now that the music is the candy that pulls you in, it’s the lyrics however that can very well be the poison.


6 posted on 04/17/2020 4:48:29 PM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: servo1969

I knew Waters was a douche, but sad to hear that about Gilmour.


7 posted on 04/17/2020 4:49:20 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp (c)
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To: higgmeister
I must be missing something. Why does this nave new relevance now?

A recent post about Roger Waters reminded me of this excellent take down from 2013.

8 posted on 04/17/2020 4:52:14 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: V_TWIN

Yeah, lyrics is what I meant.


9 posted on 04/17/2020 4:52:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: servo1969
David Gilmour (casually) espouse the most rabid, old school Jew hatred.

In which song or in which interview?

10 posted on 04/17/2020 4:52:54 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: libertylover

True, PF was an incredible band. I never saw any anti-Israel messages in any of PFs music. Roger Waters is now disgusting. I at 1st liked The Dark Side of the Moon. Heard it too often. Got tired of hearing it. The lyrics of Money is BS was garbage. If PF thought money was BS then why did they charge money for their concerts.? At any rate I liked PF. I do not like Roger Waters. And while I find Jews who vote Democrat to be creepy, I chose to stand with Israel.


11 posted on 04/17/2020 4:58:20 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: edwinland
Thanks for posting.

If Roger Waters was a Conservative, the Political Left would have destroyed his reputation and his livelihood.

The “relevance” of people like Waters never grows old.

Four months ago, 32% of the United Kingdom voted for the Labour Party, which was led by Jeremy Corbyn, a man who was openly anti-Semitic.

As a lifelong friend of the Jewish people and the nation of Israel, my advice is to ALWAYS pay very close attention to the people who hate you.

12 posted on 04/17/2020 5:04:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: edwinland

Rabbi, to be anti-Israel it is sufficient but not necessary to be anti-Semitic. Don’t play the equivalent of the race card.


13 posted on 04/17/2020 5:05:10 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: edwinland

Chaim Witz (Gene Simmons) could punch his lights out.


14 posted on 04/17/2020 5:31:27 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: NobleFree
Please explain your anti-Israel is not anti-Semitic.

I am just a Jesus believing Disciples of Christ on the sidelines watching this play out.

15 posted on 04/17/2020 5:34:19 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: NobleFree
Please explain your anti-Israel is not anti-Semitic.

I am just a Jesus believing Disciples of Christ on the sidelines watching this play out.

16 posted on 04/17/2020 5:35:06 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: servo1969
Can you provide support for your statement that Gilmour is anti-Semitic? Song lyrics (that he (co-)wrote)? Statements in interviews? Statements to the press?

I’ve been a Pink Floyd fan since around 1970, and when Waters’ became obvious a few decades later, I continued as a fan in spite of that. I am frankly appalled by Waters, but that doesn’t reflect on Gilmour.

Please support your statement?

17 posted on 04/17/2020 5:52:30 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored
This is the closest I can get - https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/01/pink-floyds-david-gilmour-joins.html

Gilmore hasn't been a raging anti-Semite like Waters. Does this pic make Gilmore a mild anti-Semite? I don't know. But I'd never claim that this pic is prime evidence that he is.

Just like I think John Lennon was little beyond Bowie's "Fame" after the Beatles, I think Waters was little beyond...well...touring The Wall after he left Pink Floyd. Gilmore, like McCartney, had a pretty decent solo career. Talent rises above the sum of the parts.

18 posted on 04/17/2020 6:12:11 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: dayglored

Other than a few times Gilmour helped Waters with a Palestinian charity I can’t find any evidence of him saying anything against Israel. So, it seems I stand corrected.

I also believe I was confusing Gilmour with an author who is either also named David Gilmour or most likely using the pen name David Gilmour.

So, you guys seem to be correct. Sorry.

Still can’t enjoy Pink Floyd anymore, though.
Waters is a giant knob.


19 posted on 04/17/2020 6:41:06 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
Thanks for the candid response. Gilmour never struck me as a bad person, so anti-Semitism didn’t seem likely.

> Waters is a giant knob.

Indeed. I’d say you’re even being generous. Despite his considerable musical and lyrical talent, he revealed himself to be possessed of an evil heart. I’d call him just a small knob, perhaps a knoblet.

20 posted on 04/17/2020 7:13:48 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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