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WHY IS NEW YORK HARDEST HIT?
Powerline ^ | APRIL 14, 2020 | JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 04/14/2020 12:27:23 PM PDT by Hojczyk

As everyone knows, New York City is the main center of COVID-19 infection and fatality in the U.S., with something like 40% of all American deaths. The reasons why shouldn’t be a mystery.

When the Black Death struck Europe in the 14th Century, people had no idea what caused the disease, and all of their theories were wrong. But experience showed, as was the case in later plagues, that the countryside was safer than the city. Most people who could decamped from cities to the country.

And New York City, with more than 28,000 people per square mile, is by far the most densely populated major US city. San Francisco is second at around 18,500, and cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and Washington are in the 11,000 to 12,000 range.

There is a second factor that I suspect is also very important: New York’s reliance on mass transit. New York’s mass transit system–mostly its subways–is, by a huge margin, the most relied-upon public transportation system in the U.S. It carries a remarkable 2,275,000,000 riders per year.

Another point is worth mentioning. Why don’t we think of New York as a chronically sick place? Because people build up immunity to diseases that have been around for a while, and the more people you are exposed to, the more likely you are to be immune. But when a new disease like COVID-19 comes along, a virus to which no one has built up immunity, the population density and public transportation factors come to the fore and New York becomes a very sick city, compared to anywhere else.

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KEYWORDS: populationdensity; publictransportation
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To: Jewbacca

If a dump the first time why would you return.


121 posted on 04/14/2020 2:11:09 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
(AOC the bartender would have had to work on the second floor at Miss KittyÂ’s saloon...) With those choppers?😎
122 posted on 04/14/2020 2:12:00 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: CondorFlight

“If it were just density, then Hong Kong and Singapore ought to have thousands of deaths each, instead of less than 100 combined.”

The reason for the difference can be summed up with one word - which is also the Numero Uno determinant of a society’s success: CULTURE.

Honk Kong and Singapore are not NYC (to put it mildly). No bums living in the streets, and I would wager the personal hygiene habits of the average inhabitant are a bit different too. Oh yes - wearing masks during flu season is standard fare over there.


123 posted on 04/14/2020 2:13:13 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: CondorFlight

“If it were just density, then Hong Kong and Singapore ought to have thousands of deaths each, instead of less than 100 combined.”

Singapore’s population density is about 30% less than NYC (~20,000 vs. 27,000 per sq. mi.) and its total population is about 25% less than NYC (5.6 millions vs. 8.3 million). Although Hong Kong’s density (~42,000 per sq. mi.) is nearly twice as dense as NYC, its total population (~1.3 million) is about 1/6th as large as NYC.

Perhaps most significant is the fact that NYC is part of the NYC metropolitan area, which has a population of ~23 million people, who are tied together by the largest mass transit system in the world, with a total ridership of 2.275 billion people per year (that’s over 6 million people a day).

Here’s a list of the most densely populated cities in the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

Nine of the top ten densest cities are in the NYC metro area with several having densities of 50,000 people per sq. mi.

Two other factors: First, Hong Kong is controlled by the CCP and thus, I’m surprised that Hong Kong has reported any deaths. Second, from what I have read recently, obesity and obesity related diseases (i.e., Type II diabetes) create the greatest risk of life threatening complications from the Chinese Wuhan Flu. The USA is ranked as one of the fattest countries, if not the fattest counrty in the world. Singapore is ranked as one of the lowest.


124 posted on 04/14/2020 2:13:58 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: doorgunner69

“They live like sardines in a smelly can?”

And they are mostly democrats.


125 posted on 04/14/2020 2:14:10 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: jerod

“New York = Italians... Lots of Italians.”

You may be on to something. Besides China (with probably 100,000 dead from this virus), the three highest per capita nations in terms of deaths are the main Latin nations:

Italy, France and Spain. There may indeed be a genetic component to their increased vulnerability.


126 posted on 04/14/2020 2:15:45 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: dowcaet

“Seoul and Tokyo shocked me in terms of its cleanliness.”

Because they are populated by Koreans and Japanese...not New York democrats.


127 posted on 04/14/2020 2:17:48 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Hojczyk

Why? It’s a no-brainer. Democrat owned and operated, and their ‘leadership’ led people the wrong way.


128 posted on 04/14/2020 2:23:32 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: HangnJudge

Exactly and if you take NYC out of the mix, the stats probably don’t look so bad. Just another flu bug....


129 posted on 04/14/2020 2:27:40 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: motoman

I wonder if it’s because of the Asian population they have?


130 posted on 04/14/2020 2:28:45 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was riding the subway and buses in NYC back in the ‘80’s, people were squished together like sardines!!


131 posted on 04/14/2020 2:30:53 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: lepton

It’s not only a COVID-19 death that is charged against, it’s a charge for each intubation, or ventilator, or IV etc.

There are factual reports that COVID-19 death is chargeable and that people who died of other causes are declared as deaths due to COVID-19.

As for NYC, the incidence of death is now reported to have been misreported earlier. There’s a lot of misreporting there.

There are crisis actors and apparent frauds playing up the hype in the NYC area. Bottomline, like stats from China, you really can’t trust what’s reported. The “it must be true because I saw someone say it on TV” or the internet, is a fool’s argument.

See Amazing Polly here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAnSkQojE_4

There’s a respected MD who has been on broadcast news blowing the whistle on forms sent from the state instructing his office how to report COVID-19 deaths that were not COVID-19 deaths.

I’ll find the videos and post their links here.

Italians (different independent sources) report similar incidents of many deaths of other causes reported as COVID deaths.

We are mostly still in the dark about the scale of disinformation.


132 posted on 04/14/2020 2:41:39 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Bonemaker

Singapore is kept very clean and public order is preserved by authorities.


133 posted on 04/14/2020 2:43:50 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: FamiliarFace

My thoughts exactly. Their use of HCQ is still prohibited outside of their limited clinical trials.


134 posted on 04/14/2020 2:50:45 PM PDT by motoman (")
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To: Hojczyk

In early March, asymptotic cases were walking around unknowingly spreading the disease. NYC has a huge mass transit bus and subway system running throughout five boroughs. You have NJ Transit, Long Island Railroad, Metro North and Amtrak commuter rails carrying people into Penn Station and Grand Central, you have the Staten Island Ferry, PATH trains and buses into Port Authority right up until March. In large states like California, Texas and Florida most people drive to work. Those states have a fraction of the deaths NYC has.


135 posted on 04/14/2020 2:51:43 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Engedi

How does Cuomo have the authority to shut down a hospital?


136 posted on 04/14/2020 2:56:32 PM PDT by caver
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To: Hojczyk

In a typical year — in New York City — nobody dies.


137 posted on 04/14/2020 3:42:53 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: SeekAndFind

Start spreading the flu....

Sung to the tune New York, New York.


139 posted on 04/14/2020 4:27:59 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (I thank the good Lord everyday that I no longer live in CA.)
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To: MikeHu

In a typical year — in New York City — nobody dies.


In a typical day, using 2015 numbers, between 140 (mid-summer) and 158 (Flu season) people die a day in NYC. For the past week, over 500/day have been dying just from the Wuhan Coronavirus.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/vs/2015sum.pdf

See page 40. 2015, 54,120 deaths. /365= 148 deaths/day


140 posted on 04/14/2020 6:54:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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