Posted on 04/10/2020 5:39:38 AM PDT by C19fan
A group of Outer Banks property owners have filed a federal lawsuit against local officials who have blocked them from accessing their second homes during the coronavirus pandemic. On March 20, North Carolina's Dare County - which includes the middle part of the Outer Banks - issued an order barring non-state residents from entering the area in a bid to stop the spread of COVID-19. Checkpoints have been set up along major highways, and those trying to enter the county must produce a North Carolina driver's license or a 'Permanent Resident Permit'.
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Do you believe that preventing people from going to their own property is unconstitutional?
There are undoubtably many State and local laws involved and this is local law enforcement.
Please tell me if you see a Constitutional angle.
I tend to agree on the property rights issue, but I’m going to throw this out there. I live in an area of VT with a large number of second homeowners from NYC, Westchester county, and South Western Connecticut. Second homeowners have been streaming in for a month now. Last Friday I got word one of my friends from first grade died from CV-19, yesterday his brother passed away. Their entire extended family is in quarantine with at least 1 other hospitalized. These folks live a mile from me.
Now a few others in the area from different social groups are infected. This is in a rural area of less than 3000 people. We are becoming VT’s second hotspot outside of Burlington. The people coming here were not social distancing (I have stories, but too long to post). It’s the “we’re in VT it’s safe” syndrome from these folks).
I’ll leave it here for Freepers to form their own opinions.
What constitutional authority does the government have to prevent people from going to their property?
The same question should be asked about congregating, closing gun stores, etc.
They never let a crisis go to waste. The despicable party is always looking for a edge.
Yeah, but they wrote the Constitution during an off-year for the flu.
If we wanted to keep people from virus-plagued Wuhan out of America, it’s not hard to understand why locals would want to keep people from virus-plagued New York out of their county. Maybe it’s not constitutional, I don’t know , but as a matter of public health protection, what exactly is the difference
And remember, some of the Chinese blocked by trumps travel ban might own property in the US. Does that mean the ban was wrong?
Yeah, but they wrote the Constitution during an off-year for the flu.”
What do you think about Trumps China travel ban?
what happened in Florida, if you don’t mind sharing? I am just curious.
So denying them the use of their property is okay in your book?
In a declared emergency the government has more power to control access/egress to property, or all of these quarantines would be unconstitutional as well. Evacuations for hurricanes? What if a volcano is erupting near property? A dam breaking? Would 300 thousand+ stampeding into OBX to get to their vacation homes harm this community which is barely equipped to support ~30k in an emergency? Does that matter? Every property owner in this county has had to evacuate every couple of years. This is something you accept if buy property here.
“Many summer rental revenue will be lost and mortgages defaulted on.”
I’m trying to convInce the wife to sell our current residence asap while we still have some good comparable sales from the previous year. We’re in a generally hot neighborhood, so we’d probably get the majority of “our perceived” current value. “Comps”, in general, will start going downhill soon if foreclosures start flooding the market. Bank the money, move into a rental, of which there will eventually be plenty at good prices.
There’s a huge, astronomical difference between suspending travel from a communist country and denying people the right to use their own property.
If we don’t have property rights, we have next to nothing. I hope the jackboots preventing people from accessing their property are sued personally, so they don’t have endless government pockets to defend their unconstitutional actions.
So denying them the use of their property is okay in your book?
You ask if it’s unconstitutional, now you ask if it’s “okay”. Make your point, if you’ve got one.
These people’s property rights are being balanced with other people’s and it’s being done locally. There’s a lack of Christianity all around, so of course it looks ugly.
This is not right, they have no right to block roads period, these are just control freaks trying to hurt the wealthy.
There’s a huge, astronomical difference between suspending travel from a communist country and denying people the right to use their own property.“
Trump didn’t suspend travel from China because its a communist country. He did it because it was the center of the virus and he wanted to protect Americans from people bringing the virus here from China. In the same way, New York is now the center of the virus, so one can understand a NC county wanting to protect itself from people bringing the virus from New York.
I live in a large college town and I’m thrilled they didn’t allow the SJWs back to the dorms & their off campus rentals immediately after Spring break. I could care less about their rights, civil and/or constitutional, because they don’t give a rip about mine. I’m hoping that the aftermath of the Wuhan flu shrinks the student population by 80% (+/-), even with economic consequences that it would bring to this town. Smaller is better when it comes to liberalism.
There’s no class warfare going on. It isn’t political at all. It would be irresponsible at every level to invite ten times our normal population into this area in the middle of a pandemic. We have no way to cope with the sick and we do not have food and other supplies to sustain it. Everything is shut down.
From the 70s to the present, maybe. From HIV.gov:
In 2017, there were 16,350 deaths among adults and adolescents with diagnosed HIV in the United States and 6 dependent areas.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics
Like their unfortunate voting habits, they bring the disease with them.
Owners of time share weeks there are being affected, not just the rich.
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