Posted on 04/03/2020 2:06:36 PM PDT by olepap
It got into the rural areas by the returning soldiers of WWI. Most of them came from and returned to rural areas where they spread the flu. The Spanish Flu made Corona Virus look like a non event. The official count of American dead was 650,000 but Grandpa and others thought it was in the millions. There were almost no doctors, no hospitals, no antibiotics for secondary pneumonia, no medicines, no warm houses, no protection of any kind. It was a slaughter.
The Spanish flu lasted two years. It has been only two months since the first Covid-19 case appeared outside of China.
This one ain’t over yet.
Some of it will re-appear. It is bound to, as all former virus spreads do. The potential for this is causing idiot worldsocialist dems (but i repeat myself) to think it is a great opportunity to ram through more totalitarian “control” agendas.
Like the recent “questions” at the presser, and all over the radio and blog scape-— why doesn’t President Trump allow a special new signup period for obamacare??????? Anything to keep this shite going. Answer is— as regards coronavirus, you’ll all be tested and treated as needed, pre-paid.
We don’t need national healthcare rammed through in the “emergency” of SARS-Cov2 CCP Virus. They truly are demented relentless animals.
The whole thing— the dems all remind me of the Zombies from World War Z (awful stupid movie). The mobs of infected monsters in the streets-— dems gibs me dats voters.
The second wave of spanish flu was a stronger, mutated strain. So if that happens, it might not matter if anyone has immunity to the first wave. I have not seen any clear statements as to whether we should expect this thing to exist forever in its current form, potentially infecting people for a long time. Or if it might mutate and potentially infect even people who already had it once.
What happened to spanish flu? Did it die forever or did we all become immune to it?
I agree that this new, novel, stay-at-home strategy seems to have that fundamental flaw built into it. When you stop staying at home, aren’t you going to be just as vulnerable to being infected as you were on day one? So why stay at home at all? Just to buy 3 months more of life as a shut-in?
Stay-at-home makes zero sense as a strategy unless this virus has a magical shelf life that makes it die for all eternity in 3 months.
National health care provided the biggest bottleneck in this entire pandemic. The CDC and FDA took full control of testing from the states and the private sector and completely, totally, utterly bungled it. This epidemic is the biggest argument against nationalized health care we have ever seen.
I still am completely baffled by liberals who rail against Trump for his handling of the virus and then insist we need nationalized health care. Do they realize there is no logic to what they are saying? They would prefer Trump have 100% control over every aspect of health care? They are just in love with the words “nationalized health care.”
“Stay-at-home makes zero sense as a strategy unless this virus has a magical shelf life that makes it die for all eternity in 3 months.”
It makes perfect sense if you’re a democrat who wants to destroy the economy and get rid of Trump.
Otherwise it doesn’t.
In the 2nd wave, yes. Supposedly young healthy individuals would wake up in the morning feeling fine. And dead by evening. Theory is their immune system reacted too well, or something like that. “Cytokine Storm”.
Another factor was also cited in some medical journals years later, Aspirin was prescribed in huge quantities - they weren’t sure what else to do - but doctors talked about “drenching” people with repeated 1,000 or 2,000 mg doses to try and quell the fevers. This may have contributed to a lot of deaths.
Supposedly the 1918 epidemic was an H1N1 variant. It’s still around today, basically. Could be wrong on that.
Also, lack of medical knowledge and resources.
I’ve heard that taking aspirin may have contributed greatly to the number of deaths.
No it does make sense because if you end up in the hospital, you are not in for a short stay unless you die.
The purpose is to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system to THAT doesn’t crash.
Because if that crashes, people will be dropping like flies because there’s no treatment and do you think the economy will survive just fine if that happens?
Thay dug up some of the actual 1918 virus that had been in victims buried in the permafrost. Of course they took it to a lab and are fooling around with it...
The second wave of spanish flu was a stronger, mutated strain.
Wouldn’t the earlier strain have left antibodies to help out against the second strain?
Back when there was no hysterical media.
In 1968 and 1969 was the Hong Kong flu. It nearly killed me at age 24. Older people, including my parents, seemed to be immune. Both my parents had been children in 1918, father five and mother two years old and had been unharmed by the “Spanish” flu. I suffered a living nightmare for three days, thinking I was going to die and sometimes wishing I could.
Yes. But it wasn’t just rural areas as Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia, San Francisco were among the cities particularly hard hit, likely because they were transportation hubs and near military bases and or navel yards.
Of course it reached rural areas too. In fact, even very remote areas. There was the story I read not long ago about a secluded Inuit village in Alaska. IIRC, a minister or priest became concerned about the inhabitants and he along with several other men including a doctor, traveled to the village to check on their welfare. When they got there, they saw no one about outside. They went to the first dwelling and opened the door to find all the inhabitants were dead and the now half-starved sled dogs were fighting over the human remains and bones. One of the men took a gun and shot all the dogs. And it was the same in all the dwellings – everyone in the village had died.
There were almost no doctors, no hospitals, no antibiotics for secondary pneumonia, no medicines, no warm houses, no protection of any kind. It was a slaughter.
There was a shortage of doctors and nurses because of the war, but that’s not to say there were none. And there were hospitals although not perhaps so much in rural areas.
As you say, there were no antibiotics but in many cases people died so quickly from the cytokine storm that there wasn’t time for a secondary bacterial infection to set in.
As far as “warm houses”, this was 1918-19 not the dark ages. Even in poor rural areas, excepting for the very poorest, most people had some sort of heat in their homes and electrification and telephones were by 1918 becoming more common even in rural areas.
WHAT?
Your post makes no sense.
Don’t forget that Trump’s paternal grandfather was a victim of the Spanish flu in 1918.
“Stay-at-home makes zero sense as a strategy unless this virus has a magical shelf life that makes it die for all eternity in 3 months.”
It makes perfect sense if you’re a democrat who wants to destroy the economy and get rid of Trump.
Otherwise it doesn’t.
You are both correct as well as wrong. Stay at home prevents (hopefully) people from mingling with other people to either spread or catch a disease. Until there is a treatment, it is about the only way to stop the spread and death. Once there is a treatment then “Stay at Home,” can be relaxed. The Shelf life is the amount of time it takes to find a treatment.
As for destroying the economy. You are very correct. As Steve Bannon says if you are going to go through Hell...run. He is calling for borders, flights, internal flights, rail...everything to be closed down on the short term.
Some of the side problems associated with the virus include famine. Remember, Locusts were chewing up everything in Africa and the Mid-East prior to and as the Wuhan was making its way through China and beyond. So a lack of food there.
In China, food is short due to farmers being quarantined. Why do you think they are buying up our foodstocks.
Last year there was not much of a growing season due to floods here in the US. What about now? Is the growing season and harvest to be the same as always, or will it be down like last year and thus a precursor to famine.
Famine traditionally follows Plague for obvious reasons.
What is happening now is not much different from past plagues. Not to be a fear-monger, but this “flu” could just be a little brother to something different. Or it could have been much worse but due to healthier diets around the world which brought better immune systems, people have been able to fight off the Bat Virus.
My great grandmother died of this flu before my grandfather got back from WW1. It bothered him his entire life.
Yes younger folks were more severely affected.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.