Corona virus daily thread #36

[LilFarmer]

Yesterday’s thread is here: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3831016/posts

[LilFarmer]

SC
DHEC: 1,700 total cases of coronavirus, 3 new deaths
147 new cases brings the total number to 1,700 cases in all 46 counties, with a total of 34 deaths statewide.
https://www.wltx.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/latest-numbers-coronavirus-cases-south-carolina/101-9214f6b1-2a1f-4028-b66c-fa252a4ec03f

OR
Positive 899
Negative 16,535
Total persons tested 17,434
Total deaths 22
https://govstatus.egov.com/OR-OHA-COVID-19

MA
• There were 6354 new tests conducted for a total of 62962.
• There are 1436 new cases for a total of 10402.
• 38 new deaths were reported for a total of 192.
https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-april-3-2020/download

[RummyChick]

Our coronavirus repatriation nightmare: How more than 350 passengers from the virus-riddled Costa Luminosa cruise ship were flown back to the US in a ‘suicide mission’ that has ended with one American dead and dozens more infected
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8185981/Inside-fiasco-repatriation-American-Luminosa-cruise-passengers.html

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Idiot CDC guy saying this virus cant go more than 6 feet

[Vermont Lt]

Are you telling me that unemployment, plus $600 plus $2400 per household, on top of your emergency fund (you do have an emergency fund, right?) is not going to keep you solvent through May?

If you are making that much and you don’t have savings...shame on you. If you have THAT much debt, and not enough savings...shame on you.

The economy was fine three weeks ago. There is 0 reason to believe it won’t come back.

Your fear sounds personal. Ask your friends and family for help. I am sure there are even people here that would help.

[LilFarmer]

Comment: everyone who patronized my husband’s business today had a mask on. It is as if everyone was waiting for permission. When did we become a nation of wussies? Lol CDC - ​​​​​​​Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission - April 3, 2020 Today, 06:22 PM Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission CDC continues to study the spread and effects of the novel coronavirus across the United States. We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms. This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity—for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing—even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms. In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission. It is critical to emphasize that maintaining 6-feet social distancing remains important to slowing the spread of the virus. CDC is additionally advising the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others. Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure. The cloth face coverings recommended are not surgical masks or N-95 respirators. Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders, as recommended by current CDC guidance. This recommendation complements and does not replace the President’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America, 30 Days to Slow the Spreadexternal icon, which remains the cornerstone of our national effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus. CDC will make additional recommendations as the evidence regarding appropriate public health measures continues to develop. Page last reviewed: April 3, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html

[metmom]

True.

Unless everyone was willing and able to self-isolate completely for however long it takes for the virus to be completely eradicated, that is going to happen.

We have to learn to live with it and manage it.

[LilFarmer]

Reposting

Comment: everyone who patronized my husband’s business today had a mask on. It is as if everyone was waiting for permission. When did we become a nation of wussies? Lol

CDC - Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission - April 3, 2020
Today, 06:22 PM

Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission

CDC continues to study the spread and effects of the novel coronavirus across the United States. We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms. This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity—for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing—even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms. In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

It is critical to emphasize that maintaining 6-feet social distancing remains important to slowing the spread of the virus. CDC is additionally advising the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others. Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure.

The cloth face coverings recommended are not surgical masks or N-95 respirators. Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders, as recommended by current CDC guidance.

This recommendation complements and does not replace the President’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America, 30 Days to Slow the Spreadexternal icon, which remains the cornerstone of our national effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus. CDC will make additional recommendations as the evidence regarding appropriate public health measures continues to develop.

Page last reviewed: April 3, 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html

[Fury]

20% capacity of... what?

Disregard. Now I see.

[LilFarmer]

KS
There are 30 COVID-19 cases connected with Life Care Center in Burlington. This number includes employees and residents. Some employees do not life in Coffey County, which is why they aren’t included in the county numbers.
https://www.wibw.com/content/news/Coffey-Co-has-new-COVID-19-cases—569361601.html

[Vermont Lt]

Are you drawing river water?

Chances are your well water is pretty deep. It would take an awful lot of virus seeping down into the ground to impact your water.

[blueplum]

Think of the virus like a tick. Just waiting there, waving it’s little arms around begging for a ride. We probably don’t want this virus around livestock, since it came about zoologically to begin with. Stop them. Tell them the puppies can’t be petted and cuddled until they have their next shots.

or, how do you feel about having to shampoo all the dogs and every animal in the barn each time the dogs are petted...what do you want to risk, in the name of being ‘nice’? I don’t mean to sound harsh, but we don’t know yet if this ‘airborne’ virus can transfer back to livestock. We do know that dogs can carry it in their nose at least for a time, and dogs touch animals with..their nose. This virus sucks.

[Varsity Flight]

NBC Nightly News no proofreading

“US death toll 270,000 as death toll rises to 3000”

Must be 5 yr. old home from school

[LilFarmer]

Important -

Pretty definitive information about sterilizing masks for re-use forum the guy who designed them.

https://utrf.tennessee.edu/information-faqs-performance-protection-sterilization-of-face-mask-materials/

[blueplum]

ok, that’s scary. How close is your room? Can they move you?

[Jane Long]

We knew this was coming!

Posted it here, last week, from Dr Matt McCarthy’s tweet.

[Jane Long]

Okay...we need more details.

Do you share a common hallway/elevator??

Check in, FRiend.

[lodi90]

I’m fine, fortunately. But I’m just watching the economy get nuked all around me.

For example across the street from me an $80 million road was just opened. Plan is for 11,000 new homes there. Unfortunately, due to the Wu Flu Panic new home construction is halting. Nothing new going up. The folks building those homes will shortly be unemployed. Given the economic uncertainty there is no chance housing will recover any time soon here.

[LilFarmer]

Yeah, fortunately I don’t think this is an ongoing thing, I see my neighbors maybe once a month. They were petting the pups through the fence. I will just use gloves to handle the dogs for a while. Sadly, I was encouraging them to pet the pups in January so they wouldn’t bark at them all the time.

If it happens again problem, I will say something. For now, I will just be super careful. Like I would the mail.

[bob_esb]

why is Germany doing so well in fatalities

Country,
Other Total
Cases New
Cases Total
Deaths New
Deaths Total
Recovered Active
Cases Serious,
Critical Tot Cases/
1M pop Deaths/
1M pop
World 1,095,904 +80,839 58,814 +5,646 228,199 808,891 39,407 140.6 7.5
USA 275,744 +30,867 7,086 +1,015 12,125 256,533 5,787 833 21
Italy 119,827 +4,585 14,681 +766 19,758 85,388 4,068 1,982 243
Spain 119,199 +7,134 11,198 +850 30,513 77,488 6,416 2,549 240
Germany 91,159 +6,365 1,275 +168 24,575 65,309 3,936 1,088 15
China 81,620 +31 3,322 +4 76,571 1,727 379 57 2
France 64,338 +5,233 6,507 +1,120 14,008 43,823 6,662 986 100
Iran 53,183 +2,715 3,294 +134 17,935 31,954 4,035 633 39
UK 38,168 +4,450 3,605 +684 135 34,428 163 562 53
Turkey 20,921 +2,786 425 +69 484 20,012 1,251 248 5
Switzerland 19,606 +779 591 +55 4,846 14,169 348 2,265 68
Belgium 16,770 +1,422 1,143 +132 2,872 12,755 1,205 1,447 99
Netherlands 15,723 +1,026 1,487 +148 250 13,986 1,324 918 87
Canada 12,375 +1,092 208 +35 2,186 9,981 120 328 6
Austria 11,524 +395 168 +10 2,022 9,334 245 1,280 19
S. Korea 10,062 +86 174 +5 6,021 3,867 55 196 3
Portugal 9,886 +852 246 +37 68 9,572 245 970 24
Brazil 9,056 +1,012 359 +35 127 8,570 296 43 2
Israel 7,428 +571 40 +4 403 6,985 113 858 5
Sweden 6,131 +563 358 +50 205 5,568 469 607 35
Norway 5,370 +223 59 +9 32 5,279 96 991 11
Australia 5,350 +36 28 +3 585 4,737 85 210 1
Ireland 4,273 +424 120 +22 5 4,148 109 865 24
Russia 4,149 +601 34 +4 281 3,834 8 28 0.2
Czechia 4,091 +233 53 +9 72 3,966 77 382 5
Denmark 3,757 +371 139 +16 1,193 2,425 153 649 24
Chile 3,737 +333 22 +4 427 3,288 31 195 1
Poland 3,383 +437 71 +14 56 3,256 50 89 2
Ecuador 3,368 +205 145 +25 65 3,158 100 191 8
Malaysia 3,333 +217 53 +3 827 2,453 108 103 2
Romania 3,183 +445 133 +18 283 2,767 83 165 7
Philippines 3,018 +385 136 +29 52 2,830 1 28 1
Pakistan 2,686 +265 40 +6 126 2,520 10 12 0.2
Japan 2,617 63 514 2,040 60 21 0.5
Luxembourg 2,612 +125 31 +1 500 2,081 33 4,173 50
India 2,567 +24 72 192 2,303 2 0.05
Saudi Arabia 2,039 +154 25 +4 351 1,663 41 59 0.7
Indonesia 1,986 +196 181 +11 134 1,671 7 0.7
Thailand 1,978 +103 19 +4 612 1,347 23 28 0.3
Finland 1,615 +97 20 +1 300 1,295 72 291 4
Greece 1,613 +69 63 +10 78 1,472 92 155 6
Peru 1,595 +181 61 +6 537 997 51 48 2
Mexico 1,510 +132 50 +13 633 827 1 12 0.4
South Africa 1,505 +43 9 +4 95 1,401 7 25 0.2
Dominican Republic 1,488 +108 68 +8 16 1,404 147 137 6
Serbia 1,476 +305 39 +8 54 1,383 81 169 4
Panama 1,475 37 10 1,428 50 342 9
Iceland 1,364 +45 4 309 1,051 12 3,997 12
Colombia 1,267 +106 25 +6 55 1,187 50 25 0.5
Argentina 1,265 39 +3 266 960 28 0.9
UAE 1,264 +240 9 +1 108 1,147 2 128 0.9
Algeria 1,171 +185 105 +19 62 1,004 27 2
Singapore 1,114 +65 5 +1 282 827 24 190 0.9
Croatia 1,079 +68 8 +1 92 979 39 263 2
Qatar 1,075 +126 3 93 979 37 373 1
Ukraine 1,072 +175 27 +5 22 1,023 16 25 0.6
Egypt 985 +120 66 +8 216 703 10 0.6
Estonia 961 +103 12 +1 48 901 16 724 9
Slovenia 934 +37 20 +3 70 844 31 449 10
New Zealand 868 +71 1 103 764 2 180 0.2
Hong Kong 845 +43 4 173 668 8 113 0.5
Iraq 820 +48 54 226 540 20 1
Morocco 791 +83 48 +4 57 686 1 21 1
Armenia 736 +73 7 43 686 30 248 2
Diamond Princess 712 11 619 82 10
Lithuania 696 +47 9 7 680 11 256 3
Bahrain 672 +29 4 382 286 3 395 2
Hungary 623 +38 26 +5 43 554 17 64 3
Moldova 591 +86 8 +2 26 557 65 147 2
Bosnia and Herzegovina 579 +46 17 +1 27 535 4 176 5
Cameroon 509 +203 8 +1 17 484 19 0.3
Lebanon 508 +14 17 +1 50 441 26 74 2
Tunisia 495 +40 18 +4 5 472 30 42 2
Latvia 493 +35 1 +1 1 491 3 261 0.5
Bulgaria 485 +28 14 +4 30 441 21 70 2
Kazakhstan 464 +29 6 +3 29 429 6 25 0.3
Slovakia 450 +24 1 10 439 3 82 0.2
Azerbaijan 443 +43 5 32 406 7 44 0.5
Andorra 439 +11 16 +1 16 407 12 5,682 207
North Macedonia 430 +46 12 +1 20 398 8 206 6
Kuwait 417 +75 82 335 16 98
Costa Rica 416 +20 2 11 403 13 82 0.4
Cyprus 396 +40 11 +1 28 357 11 328 9
Uruguay 369 +19 4 68 297 13 106 1
Belarus 351 +47 4 53 294 11 37 0.4
Taiwan 348 +9 5 50 293 15 0.2
Réunion 321 +13 40 281 3 359
Jordan 310 +11 5 58 247 5 30 0.5
Albania 304 +27 17 +1 89 198 7 106 6
Burkina Faso 302 +14 16 50 236 14 0.8
Afghanistan 281 +8 6 10 265 7 0.2
Cuba 269 +36 6 15 248 8 24 0.5
Oman 252 +21 1 57 194 3 49 0.2
San Marino 245 30 21 194 15 7,221 884
Vietnam 237 +4 85 152 3 2
Channel Islands 232 +39 4 +1 13 215 1,334 23
Uzbekistan 227 +22 2 25 200 8 7 0.06
Honduras 222 +3 15 +1 3 204 10 22 2
Ivory Coast 218 +24 1 19 198 8 0.04
Nigeria 210 +26 4 +2 25 181 1 0.02
Senegal 207 +12 1 66 140 1 12 0.06
Ghana 205 +1 5 31 169 2 7 0.2
Malta 202 +6 2 200 2 457
Palestine 194 +33 1 21 172 38 0.2
Mauritius 186 +17 7 179 1 146 6
Faeroe Islands 179 +2 91 88 1 3,663
Montenegro 174 +30 2 1 171 4 277 3
Sri Lanka 159 +8 4 24 131 5 7 0.2
Georgia 155 +21 28 127 6 39
Venezuela 153 +7 7 +2 52 94 6 5 0.2
Martinique 143 +5 3 27 113 18 381 8
DRC 134 13 3 118 1 0.1
Brunei 134 +1 1 65 68 3 306 2
Bolivia 132 +9 9 +1 1 122 3 11 0.8
Guadeloupe 130 +2 7 +1 24 99 14 325 17
Kyrgyzstan 130 +14 1 +1 6 123 5 20 0.2
Mayotte 128 +12 2 +1 10 116 3 469 7
Kenya 122 +12 4 +1 4 114 2 2 0.07
Niger 120 +22 5 115 5 0.2
Isle of Man 114 +19 1 113 1,341 12
Cambodia 114 +4 35 79 1 7
Trinidad and Tobago 98 +4 6 +1 1 91 70 4
Gibraltar 95 +7 46 49 2,820
Paraguay 92 +15 3 6 83 2 13 0.4
Rwanda 89 +5 89 7
Liechtenstein 75 75 1,967
Guinea 73 +21 2 71 6
Madagascar 70 +11 70 6 3
Monaco 64 +4 1 3 60 2 1,631 25
Aruba 62 +2 1 61 581
Bangladesh 61 +5 6 26 29 1 0.4 0.04
French Guiana 57 +6 22 35 1 191
Barbados 51 +5 51 177
Guatemala 50 +3 1 12 37 1 3 0.06
Djibouti 49 +9 8 41 50
Uganda 48 +3 48 1
Jamaica 47 3 2 42 16 1
El Salvador 46 +5 2 44 4 7 0.3
Macao 42 +1 10 32 65
Togo 40 +1 3 +1 17 20 5 0.4
Mali 39 +3 3 36 2 0.1
Zambia 39 1 2 36 2 0.05
French Polynesia 39 +2 39 1 139
Bermuda 35 14 21 562
Ethiopia 35 +6 3 32 2 0.3
Cayman Islands 28 1 27 426 15
Bahamas 24 1 1 22 1 61 3
Guyana 23 +4 4 19 29 5
Sint Maarten 23 +5 2 +1 6 15 536 47
Congo 22 2 2 18 4 0.4
Saint Martin 22 1 2 19 569 26
Eritrea 22 22 6
Gabon 21 1 1 19 9 0.4
Myanmar 20 1 19 0.4 0.02
Tanzania 20 1 3 16 0.3 0.02
Maldives 19 13 6 35
Haiti 18 +2 1 17 2
New Caledonia 18 1 17 63
Syria 16 2 14 0.9 0.1
Benin 16 +3 2 14 1
Equatorial Guinea 16 +1 1 15 11
Antigua and Barbuda 15 +6 15 1 153
Guinea-Bissau 15 +6 15 8
Mongolia 14 2 12 4
Namibia 14 3 11 6
Saint Lucia 13 1 12 71
Dominica 12 12 167
Grenada 12 +2 12 2 107
Curaçao 11 1 3 7 67 6
Libya 11 1 10 2 0.1
Sudan 10 +2 2 2 6 0.2 0.05
Suriname 10 1 +1 9 17 2
Greenland 10 3 7 176
Laos 10 10 1
Mozambique 10 10 0.3
Seychelles 10 10 102
MS Zaandam 9 2 7
Zimbabwe 9 1 8 0.6 0.07
Saint Kitts and Nevis 9 9 169
Eswatini 9 9 8
Angola 8 2 1 5 0.2 0.06
CAR 8 +5 8 2
Chad 8 8 0.5
Fiji 7 7 8
Vatican City 7 7 8,739
Liberia 7 +1 7 1
Somalia 7 +2 1 6 0.4
Cabo Verde 6 1 5 11 2
Mauritania 6 1 2 3 1 0.2
Nepal 6 1 5 0.2
Montserrat 6 +1 6 1,202
St. Barth 6 1 5 607
Nicaragua 5 1 4 0.8 0.2
Bhutan 5 2 3 6
Turks and Caicos 5 5 129
Botswana 4 1 3 2 0.4
Gambia 4 1 2 1 2 0.4
Belize 4 +1 4 10
Anguilla 3 3 200
British Virgin Islands 3 3 99
Burundi 3 3 0.3
Malawi 3 3 0.2
St. Vincent Grenadines 3 +1 1 2 27
Caribbean Netherlands 2 2 76
Sierra Leone 2 2 0.3
Falkland Islands 1 +1 1 287
Papua New Guinea 1 1 0.1
Timor-Leste 1 1 0.8
Total: 1,095,904 +80,839 58,814 +5,646 228,199 808,891 39,407 140.6 7.5

[LilFarmer]

Yep,

[firebrand]

Don’t they read Free Republic? We knew for the longest time that asymptomatic people can be infected and can infect others. Why are they just finding that out now, and basing new recommendations on it?

That was the point where I started yelling at the computer.

(I’m also yelling at the people on Facebook who are criticizing the hospital ships. I haven’t switched sides.)