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Bat cave solves mystery of deadly SARS virus — and suggests new outbreak could occur [December 2017 article nailed it]
Nature ^

Posted on 03/31/2020 9:17:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

After a detective hunt across China, researchers chasing the origin of the deadly SARS virus have finally found their smoking gun. In a remote cave in Yunnan province, virologists have identified a single population of horseshoe bats that harbours virus strains with all the genetic building blocks of the one that jumped to humans in 2002, killing almost 800 people around the world.

The killer strain could easily have arisen from such a bat population, the researchers report in PLoS Pathogens1 on 30 November. They warn that the ingredients are in place for a similar disease to emerge again.

[....] And they warn that a deadly outbreak could emerge again: the cave where the elements of SARS were found is just 1 kilometre from the nearest village, and genetic mixing among the viral strains is fast. “The risk of spillover into people and emergence of a disease similar to SARS is possible,” the authors write in their paper.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bats; batsoup; china; coronavirus; virus
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To: snarkytart

It is far easier to kill 99% of those bats with gas, and re-culling them every few months or a year, than to change the eating and hygiene habits of a 5000 year old culture.


21 posted on 03/31/2020 10:22:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Sapwolf

22 posted on 03/31/2020 10:33:33 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Bigtigermike

Trying to blame everything on Batman and Robin I see...

Harumph...

/s

zing - pow - bang - boom - pop - razzle dazzle


23 posted on 03/31/2020 10:36:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Tucker talked about a paper published by the South China University of Technology published a paper on February 6, 2020. I could not find it on the web.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8009669/Did-coronavirus-originate-Chinese-government-laboratory.html

The paper claims that the virus originated from the horseshoe bat that is native to regions 600 miles from Wuhan. But there are two labs that are 300 yards and 600 yards from the wet market that experiment with horseshoe labs. Paper came to the conclusion the labs need to move far away from population centers.

24 posted on 03/31/2020 11:28:45 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: grey_whiskers
In the Official Media, the only position allowed is that Covid-19 "jumped" to the human population because they eat bats sold in the wet markets. Pictures of Chinese heathen eating bat soup proved their case. No effort whatsoever is made to explain why it took a virus 5,000 years to learn to jump. Of course, the existence of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a biosafety level 4 (BSL–4) laboratory should be of no concern, you conspiracy theorist you! (Lab? What lab?) The Boy Scouts in the Chinese government have asserted all this and, of course, they would never lie about a thing like that.

Now, the Politburo may be evil tyrants and possible sociopaths but what they are not is stupid. If in fact Corona came from the wet markets, no way in hell would they allow the markets to reopen, right?
Well.....

25 posted on 03/31/2020 11:39:43 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: grey_whiskers

Most bioweapons aren’t useful on the battlefield because they go off target easily and are very uncontrollable, but they have demonstrated effective use for leftist causes. The sudden worldwide lockdown is a dream come true for global warmongers. 3-D printing of viruses and other techniques will be possible in the not too distant future and a single leftist nut living in his mother’s basement could destroy the world. What can happen, will.


26 posted on 03/31/2020 11:40:14 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: snarkytart

IMHO, Leviticus is a summation of all the most important medical knowledge ancient civilizations had discovered. I believe that it was accumulated through thousands of years of observation, and preserved through oral culture. When it was finally written down, it was considered important enough to be part of the Bible. In those days, priests were among the few able to read and were in the best position to get the word out to the masses. (That’s a secular interpretation; but, it does not rule out divine inspiration over the millennia.)


27 posted on 03/31/2020 11:52:42 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


28 posted on 03/31/2020 11:55:52 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Ancesthntr

If this is really a punishment from God it could be about enviro-paganism, the worship of one’s own emotions (sentimentalism) grafted onto the natural world.


29 posted on 04/01/2020 12:18:54 AM PDT by ClarityGuy
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To: grey_whiskers

Exactly.


30 posted on 04/01/2020 12:22:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bigtigermike

What about the pangolin?


31 posted on 04/01/2020 12:37:14 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Bigtigermike

There’s a video off YouTube that I watched in Feb....with a Brit bat researcher assigned to China in 2017, who was talking over this entire topic of just bats in general. So near the end of this 20-minute presentation....he starts on the topic of caves in central China which are being developed as ‘tourist-attractions’. It’s a tourist-magnet concept.

His problem was that bats crap a lot and you’d wander around a cave and maybe get this on your hands....then transfer it to your mouth or nose.

He was already in 2017....predicting that this event would occur ‘sooner or later’.


32 posted on 04/01/2020 12:48:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Bigtigermike

We applaud this report.

33 posted on 04/01/2020 12:57:37 AM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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To: Chgogal

Tucker Carlson brought up the fact that there were no Horseshoe Bats in the Wuhan Wet Market on his Tuesday show. My theory was the The Wuhan Institute of Virology was studying the role of the pangolin in the spread of Covid-19. They may have had several pangolins infected and wanted to study its how it could be a intermediary for infecting human after being infected by the horseshoe bat. When these pangolins died, they disposed them with their other lab wastes. Because the pangolin is a highly desired source of medicine from its scaly exterior and as a delicacy, they can bring a high price if sold at the Wuhan Wet Market. This market was near the Wuhan Institute. I can imagine someone doing some dumpster diving to retrieve pangolin and taking it over to the market for some quick money. What happened next is something out of a science fiction novel.


34 posted on 04/01/2020 1:32:53 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Chgogal

This is the best analysis I have found on the origins of the Wuhan Virus—COVID-19:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-not-human-made-lab-genetic-analysis-nature


35 posted on 04/01/2020 1:39:11 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Labs can feel very cave like. And you do get batty during sick season.


36 posted on 04/01/2020 2:08:16 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: stormhill; grey_whiskers
::"The researchers have now isolated some 300 bat coronavirus sequences, most not yet published, with which they will continue to monitor the virus’s evolution” :: And, isn't it nice that those strains are being "monitored" by PRC scientists. Why, they are likely in a lab right now being "monitored". Yeah, monitored. That's the ticket.
37 posted on 04/01/2020 2:33:37 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is serendipitous)
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To: Bigtigermike

Bttt


38 posted on 04/01/2020 3:50:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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To: Bigtigermike

800 miles from Wuhan wet markets.


39 posted on 04/01/2020 3:58:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bigtigermike

[Eating bats whether shoehorn or other variations of bats is the problem it would appear ]


I don’t think eating bats is the problem. It’s processing bats. We eat beef without getting e coli poisoning. We eat chicken without getting salmonella poisoning. We eat venison without getting Lyme disease. We eat pork without getting trichinosis or hep e. If they want to eat bats, they should require these flying rats to be harvested in the wild by specialists, dipped into diluted bleach or some kind of pathogen killing wash and flash frozen. The live markets are an opportunity for different viruses to meet and procreate. For bat viruses in particular, it’s a veritable orgy.


40 posted on 04/01/2020 3:59:03 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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