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To: Steve1999
Yeah, it's just the flu, and it's all a hoax to hurt Trump.


6 posted on 03/28/2020 6:09:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

We have absolutely no idea how many cases there actually were as of March 13. As of March 10, for example, Ohio estimated that 100,000 Ohioans likely were infected.


9 posted on 03/28/2020 6:14:36 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Travis McGee

Non-sequitur. She didn’t say it was a hoax; said Dems were using it against the President, blaming him for a pandemic that came from China.


13 posted on 03/28/2020 6:16:52 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Travis McGee

Dr Anthony Fauci Backtracks on Deadliness of Virus
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3829172/posts

“Dr. Anthony Fauci, the health specialist on the coronavirus task force, has said the virus’s mortality rate is closer to that of a bad case of the flu. In a Thursday report published by the New England Journal of Medicine, Fauci conceded COVID-19’s death rate was twice that of the common flu, making it roughly 0.28 percent.

That rate is exceptionally low, especially when compared to that of the SARS and MERS epidemics, which peaked at 9 percent and 36 percent respectively.

His latest comments marked a major about-face for Fauci, who previously claimed the coronavirus was 10 times as deadly as the flu.”


15 posted on 03/28/2020 6:22:50 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee
This is TX shutting down two counties. Note the website referenced.

Good morning,Texas. Here is an interactive map that prepared by science that shows their projections if we move as a state from your current order to the #StaySafeStayHome order I have implemented ⁦@GovAbbott⁩. 430,000 deaths v 5000 #FlattenTheCurve
https://t.co/2LdZOxWuZJ— Clay Jenkins (@JudgeClayJ) March 23, 2020


18 posted on 03/28/2020 6:25:13 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee
Now read this tweet thread about the site covidactnow.org;

Quick thread: Fun facts about Covid Act Now, the org that is mobilizing press, politicians, & citizens to rally behind mass quarantine/lockdown:
1) They were founded by Dem activists. 1 of them, Igor Kofman, works full time to defeat Trump in 2020. Another is a Dem legislator.— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) March 24, 2020


20 posted on 03/28/2020 6:28:40 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee

How many other shutdowns refer to that alarmist site? They predict 11k dead in ND with 3 months of social distancing. THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!

Two days ago Hillary tweets a NYT article with a model that predicts huge numbers of dead that looks a lot like the covidactnow.org model.

Pay attention to what Dr. Birx has said about the wildly inaccurate modeling, the UK model was revised DOWN by a factor of 25 this week!!

This looks like a deliberate and organized political/economic hit job. The only trouble haters like Hillary are having is Trump is managing it all like a boss, like perfect.


31 posted on 03/28/2020 6:35:08 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, are there other cause of death charts for these periods?


59 posted on 03/28/2020 7:15:15 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: Travis McGee; Bruce Campbells Chin
Matt is using actual CV deaths - CV mortality is the only valid statistic. However, my issue is that rather than evaluate trends on a linear (time reference) basis, color coded graphs are a dead giveaway as to who the MSM is targeting: emotionals (women), rather than managers (men). These types of info-blurbs are effective on the non-critical because they reinforce gross numbers by eliminating context ie time & trends.

Second, when Matt does post a line chart, it's a log chart that presents only cumulative fatalities. Well, until CV is actually eliminated, of course the line will keep increasing! Yet another classic example of how data can be presented to support practically any position. The real chart one should be monitoring daily vs cum, and then calculates the net growth rate %.

(With net growth % you can then determine the "doubling rate" aka rule of 70. Divide 70 by % to find days or vice versa. Example: 70 / 23% = 3 days doubling rate.)

Lastly, the mortality statistics are *constantly* changing as they are corrected, modified and updated - both cumulative totals and daily tallies. If you have access to actual core data, one should stop using 3rd party reference sites - go to the respective wiki page and you will observe the most current, accurate information. On that note, I really suggest people use their own charts to plot their own results. As I keep mentioning, I have an easy-to-use model that is freely available to anyone. Just shoot me a PM for the link.

On that note, here's how the last 5 days compare between Italy & US (net NY). (The models allow you to graph this data a zillion different ways.)

Italy

3/21/2020	4,825	19.7%	793	3.3
3/22/2020	5,475	13.5%	650	3.3
3/23/2020	6,077	11.0%	602	3.3
3/24/2020	6,820	12.2%	743	3.3
3/25/2020	7,503	10.0%	683	3.3
3/26/2020	8,215	9.5%	712	3.3
3/27/2020	9,134	11.2%	919	3.3
										
Growth rate					
28	Days		33.7%		
36	Days		28.8%	

US (net NY)

3/21/2020	240	30.4%	56 
3/22/2020	332	38.3%	92
3/23/2020	362	9.0%	30
3/24/2020	410	13.3%	48
3/25/2020	621	51.5%	211
3/26/2020	774	24.6%	153
3/27/2020	957	23.6%	183

Growth rate					
28	Days		27.8%		
36	Days		24.6%	
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy
74 posted on 03/28/2020 7:44:51 AM PDT by semantic
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To: Travis McGee

You selling gold or something? I don’t get your fear mongering.


86 posted on 03/28/2020 8:12:53 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Travis McGee

We don’t know if those are accurate numbers since it seems States are using presumptive numbers. If you have the symptoms, which are similar to the flu, they count it as the virus.

Even so, we have had tens of thousands die from the flu this year, so having even 1,246 die from the virus is still nothing to kill the country over.


95 posted on 03/28/2020 8:25:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Travis McGee

Interesting.

Seems like the numbers are jumping exponentially, just like in Italy.


137 posted on 03/28/2020 6:41:24 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Travis McGee

Flu for 2018 was over 80,000 dead.


147 posted on 03/28/2020 8:18:57 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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